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Are elevators and stairs good for TF2?

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2 Talk' started by Mar, Apr 26, 2009.

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Should Elevators and/or Ladders be in maps

  1. Yes, I think elevators should be in maps.

    15 vote(s)
    28.3%
  2. No, I think elevators should not be in maps.

    35 vote(s)
    66.0%
  3. Yes, I think ladders should be in maps.

    3 vote(s)
    5.7%
  4. No, I think ladders should not be in maps.

    47 vote(s)
    88.7%
  5. Yes, I think stairs should be in maps.

    42 vote(s)
    79.2%
  6. No, I think stairs should not be in maps.

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%
  7. Yes, I think ramps should be in maps.

    43 vote(s)
    81.1%
  8. No, I think ramps should not be in maps.

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Mar

    Mar Banned

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    Little poll I'm making to satisfy my own curiosity.

    Do you think that Elevators and/or ladders fit in with the gameplay mechanics of TF2?

    Personally I am strongly against ladders break the flow and are extremely awkward to use and shoot at someone else at the same time. I'm also against elevators due to the fact that they take control away from you and it's very easy to get stuck beneath them or fall off of them, which sucks when it happens.


    EDIT: Can an Admin, using the same format, add stairs and ramps to the poll? Just add these options.


    Yes, I think stairs should be in maps.
    No, I think stairs should not be in maps.
    Yes, I think ramps should be in maps.
    No, I think ramps should not be in maps.
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    Last edited: Apr 26, 2009
  2. The Political Gamer

    aa The Political Gamer

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    Yes to all, IF THEY WORK!
     
  3. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    Yes to a WORKING elevator.

    no to stairs. Stairs physic is so weird and SUPER fast it doesnt feel right.
     
  4. Mar

    Mar Banned

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    Stairs? Maybe I should add stairs to poll. but I guess ramps are ok then.

    Edit: Can an Admin, using the same format, add stairs and ramps to the poll? Just add these options.


    Yes, I think stairs should be in maps.
    No, I think stairs should not be in maps.
    Yes, I think ramps should be in maps.
    No, I think ramps should not be in maps.
     
  5. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    I meant to say Ladder.. not stairs.

    sorry for confusion. :facepalm:facepalm

    EDIT: Added other polls
     
  6. medd

    medd L2: Junior Member

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    IMO, stairs and ramps are fine. I REALLY don't like ladders or elevators.
    I prefer to keep it real ;)
     
  7. Icarus

    aa Icarus

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    stairs and ramps are the same thing...?

    Elevators and ladders are a big no-no in my opinion. Not only do neither of them work well in TF2, but Valve stated themselves that limiting player movement with ladders and elevators is not as fun as the freedom of stairs and ramps.
     
  8. eerieone

    aa eerieone

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    we forgot the most badass way of vertical transportation

    JUMP-PADS!!!!

    they are like the meaner, cooler brother of elevators :)
     
  9. Inqwel

    Inqwel L6: Sharp Member

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    I prefer to get shot out a canon to get around the map. :p /kidding
     
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  10. AntonJ3000

    AntonJ3000 I am inactive and make horrible maps

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    I like all those except for ladders, they are too damn buggy in TF2
     
  11. kwagner

    kwagner L2: Junior Member

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    The way ladders work seems too mechanical. You are either free, or you are stuck doing the ladder thing. Takes my mind out of the fight. So I voted 'no' to ladders.

    An elevator could be different. If it were open sided you could fight while it moved, and periods of time waiting for it to come into position have the potential for creating drama. But if it were badly done (buggy, serving no real purpose) it would detract. Still, I don't want to block skilled mappers away from a potentially useful tool. 'Yes' to elevators.

    Stairs? Ramps? Total 'Yes'. You need SOME means of changing elevation, and those are the most natural.

    Anyone ever done Escalators? That would seem to have potential.

    Jump pads, cannon, etc... Not familiar enough with them to comment. I've only played a couple surf-style maps, and how such things were working didn't make a lot of sense. (Maybe the surf-maps I played weren't so good?)
     
  12. Shadow Monkey

    Shadow Monkey Super Monkey

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    Stairs and ramps: yes!

    Elevators and ladders: no!

    I often play spy and I need stairs for stairstabs (yes, rly :D )!
    Elevators are not so bad, but stilll not good and ladders = SHIT!
     
  13. uma plata

    uma plata L6: Sharp Member

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    Only elevator I can recall in TF2 is in Mach4, and it sucks. Always crushes you
     
  14. DaFatCat

    DaFatCat L3: Member

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    Ramps and stairs (which are essentially just ramps that look different- player clip is always used on stairs) ftw!

    Elevators stop gameplay. They are blurg.

    Ladders just don't feel right with the gameplay of TF2, and besides it looks like shit when people climb ladders.

    One way of changing elevation is using big sucking vents, that suck players up into a vent.