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[Shmitz]

I like the connecting passageway between the three points. I think it's good for overall flow. I think what makes it possibly a bit overpowered for defense though is that it provides almost immediate line of sight to A and B once you come out of it. If the paths were tweaked so you had to run further before being able to spam the point with rockets/grenades, it would probably be an improvement.

 

[Rexy]

I like the connecting passageway between the three points. I think it's good for overall flow. I think what makes it possibly a bit overpowered for defense though is that it provides almost immediate line of sight to A and B once you come out of it. If the paths were tweaked so you had to run further before being able to spam the point with rockets/grenades, it would probably be an improvement.

I think that's a very sensible solution. That's one of the main changes I'd like to make, as well as a revision of the CP area at C. A1 testing proved that C needed a lot of work.

Thanks for the name change on this thread!

 

[Shmitz]

As Nine and Boojum seemed happy to prove over and over and over again during testing today, spawncamping red is a problem. You might want to add a third exit down to the lower ground level.

 

[Dark]

One of the other thing mentioned was to make a path up to c from blu's side so that they don't have to go all the way around. I think it might also discourage spawn camping.

 

[Rexy]

Those who were curious about C's new revision:

The suggestions for both a 3rd spawn exit and alternate methods of mounting C are both excellent and will be implemented!

 

[Azazoth!]

Ultraminor problems:

Aside from that, the map's looking great, and I had a ton of fun playing!

 

[Shmitz]

Oh yes, and I remember that while in the blue spawn area waiting for round to start, the "Placeholder" prop by A kept popping in and out of view. You might want to check your visibility between those areas.

 

[Sgt.Sausage]

Played it for the first time tonight for gameday, and really loved it. The layout is very well done, the only thing i noticed that needed work was point C having only one path up that is right outside red's spawn doors.

 

[The Political Gamer]

A and B were really fun but it felt like BLU would get bunched up in the tunnels to C and one angry pryo could decimate them all.

 

[owly-oop]

Map is pretty fun. Good job! That being said i think A and C have some major problems

Green = attackers route.
Yellow = Defender's sightlines/attacking routes
Red = my suggestion


Lets break down the layout. Blu's attacking routes, excluding the long walks that go through B, all leads up to 1 ramp (the highlighted box). When they get up to the ramp they don't have much cover or anywhere to defend themselves from, the health to the left only will delay their death. It's a deathtrap.

The middle yellow line is the longest sniper sightline in which you can't do much except hope the sniper misses. The line to the left can pick off people early on, and the one on the right finishes them off if they survive.

Here is my suggestion. The red box would be a building, so get rid of the rocks that are in the way. Also a walkway facing away from the point. I don't know what would be in the building, that's up to you



Point B is fine IMO, only minor changes needed that i don't know

Point C is kinda fun, don't like how theres only 1 ramp to the point, and 1 of the 2 routes pass the spawn. Blu demo's can easily stickyspawncamp when they're capping

 

[Rexy]

Those are great suggestions, the only problem I have with the suggested building outlined in red is that would give the defending team yet another stronghold to keep cp A...which I'm unsure of how to solve right off the bat. And C is whole other game as well, since all around there are plenty of issues.

I had been spending some time developing the theme, even though I have been still concerned that the gameplay has kinks to work out. Thanks for this info, I'll put it to use.

 

[Azazoth!]

If you made the building have no entrance from the defending side - just windows, or a one-way drop, accessible from red's side only by the usual high-jumping candidates - then it would probably be pretty easy for blue to capture and use against the defenders.

 

[littleedge]

--Move the spawn back a bit from C.
--Put a barrier on C on the side that RED spawns from.
--Have one small entrance to the tower of C on RED's side, and at least one more.
--At the actual control point, make sure there are two ways onto it for all classes to use.

I think that may help.

 

[Rexy]

Adding some changes to C and B -- and adding up some sweet wood props.

AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY WOOD.

Well maybe, if you ask nicely.

 

[honorum646]

I CAN HAS WOOD?!?









No but seriously. Nice!

 

[Void]

- obligatory joke about erecting, dispensers, wood, etc -

 

[Westerhound]

Thought you said it would have some special "theme" with the textures, but it looks normal tf2 to me :/

 

[jpr]

By your wood do you mean the models or what?

 

[DaBeatzProject]

Oh those look so nice

 

[Psy]

What's up with the light patches on the wood?