Talking about Gorge

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by XionGaTaosenai, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. XionGaTaosenai

    XionGaTaosenai L1: Registered

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    So, when I was arguing with GPuzzle about a no-build on CTF_Arroyo, I had mentioned on my Tumblr (while answering a question from a third party related to no-builds) that I would like to one day make a remake of Gorge that, among other things, retools the area around the first point. If I actually go through with this, it probably won't be for a while, but I wanted to ask for some opinions of how exactly I should go about this.

    I think we all remember Gorge. Before Valve put in the team specific no-builds on the roof in front of BLU's forward spawn, it was an infamously broken sentry spot. The no-builds were probably for the best balance-wise, but it always felt like a mere band-aid fix to me. So a map idea I came up with was an alternate version of Gorge, that removes the no-build while altering the area around the point to make the spot easier to attack and less broken. This goal would probably require a complete redesign of the whole area, but that's why I'm bringing it up; if it took any less, then the idea wouldn't be different enough from Gorge for me to consider it worth making.

    So I'd like to hear your opinion. What made that spot so broken? What changes would have to be made to make the spot less broken? And as long as we're thinking about this "Gorge2" map idea, are there any other things about Gorge that could use tweaking?
     
  2. Sergis

    aa Sergis L666: ])oo]v[

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    that nobuild made gorge a run of the mill map. i only played gorge to attack or defend the now nobuilt area.
     
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  3. omegasupreme

    omegasupreme L1: Registered

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    Honestly, that sentry spot was really easy to take down. A single Demo can destroy it with ease if he attacks from the side bridge area. Its a perfect example of Demo being a counter to Engie.
     
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  4. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound L6: Sharp Member

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    Not in FreeFortress2.

    Legit Proof:
    Date of Free2Play update:
    June 23, 2011 Patch

    Date of Gorge "fix":
    October 13, 2011 Patch

    June 23 + Valve Time = October 13
     
  5. XionGaTaosenai

    XionGaTaosenai L1: Registered

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    So do you think the no-build could be taken off of the roof and Gorge would be fine with no other changes?
     
  6. omegasupreme

    omegasupreme L1: Registered

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    Yes
     
  7. Tarry H Sruman

    Tarry H Sruman Large Orphanage Proprietor

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    That sentry spot was dumb and if you liked it your opinion is wrong.
     
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  8. Sergis

    aa Sergis L666: ])oo]v[

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    you are bad and you should feel bad
     
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