CP relfection [working title] a6

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  1. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    reflection [working title]

    Current Version: A6
    Problems I know about but am too lazy to fix:
    • Some areas are dark
    • Crates need to actually become crates


    This is the first map that I have made that I have decided to post online. It is a 5CP map designed to be played with many players playing various classes (ie. with no 6v6 in mind). Eventually, I hope to make this map a sort of inner-city warehouse-type theme. I hope that you like it!
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2011
  2. Grim Tuesday

    aa Grim Tuesday

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    Got enough white dev textures there bro?

    Looks almost like a clean room!

    The layout looks quite interesting, I can't wait to play it!
     
  3. absurdistof

    aa absurdistof

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    I have to say I'm liking the look of the layout here, perhaps with the last screeny as an exception :p
     
  4. red_flame586

    red_flame586 L7: Fancy Member

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    The layout looks nice, maybe just a bit to open and long for my tastes but a gameday will see. It probably wouldn't hurt to change some of the textures so players know what is where and whose side they are in. Also, change the floor texture to something else so the walls and floor don't blend in together.

    Edit:
    Had a quick run around, nothing really to complain about apart from the fact that it really needs signs, and you probably shouldn't block areas to only a few classes, either get rid of that roof or give players other ways to get up there. I also noticed a few places which might be a bit op for a sentry, but once again, only a gameday will tell
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2010
  5. Wilson

    aa Wilson Burial by Sleep

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    This seems pretty damn boring middle of tug-o-war payload map, look at pl_waste for example how Icarus made his
    tug-o-war middle point.

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    Sightline

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    Make this normal doorway instead small hole you need to crouch to get trough.
     
  6. J4CK8

    J4CK8 L11: Posh Member

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    Nice typo in the thread name :p

    I like the look of the final points, but as everyone else has said, less white. Maybe make the walls of RED's side RED and Blu's side BLU, and the middle walls in grey, or white and the floor grey instead. Some areas do look a little sentry friendly, and some sightlines which may be an annoyance, but gameday will tell all.

    Also, welcome!
     
  7. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    walk-through vid maybe, it would help a lot.

    other than that, let me see if I get this right, Red+Blue fight over the same cart, pushing it into the enemies base (blowing it up).
     
  8. Da_Man

    Da_Man L4: Comfortable Member

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    The whiteness is blinding. I would suggest having a separate dev textures for walls and floors, otherwise its kinda hard to judge distances. Beyond that, looks interesting other than the middle point, which doesn't seem all that exciting.
     
  9. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    Thank you everyone for the suggestions. I have had a lot to do recently, so I haven't gotten around to updating this map in time for the Gameday this Weds. However, I should have an updated and re-textured version of the map for the next Gameday. Are the EU Gamedays laggy on a US connection?

    --skinnynerd
     
  10. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    A2 is out!
    Retextured so that you don't all go blind!

    EDIT: OMFG! A2, not B2 (wvut is zis alfa u speek uv?)
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2010
  11. nik

    nik L12: Fabulous Member

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    you mean A2

    hehe
     
  12. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    Why yes, so I do!
     
  13. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    A3 is out!!!

    After scratching my head for a few weeks about what to do with people's comments that they didn't like the mid, I decided that the thing to do would be to make the current mid a choke-point and to add a second mid beyond that. 3 crumpled-up designs later, I decided to sit down at my computer and block out a control-point, then submit it here to see what people have to say. I also added a control point in the middle of the long stretch, because it seemed like the track was too long of a distance to not have a control point in the middle.

    In this release I also attempted to fix a bug where one team would win prematurely (like what happened during Gameday). Now the map will stalemate correctly when the timer runs out.

    Speaking of timers, I forgot to add time to the timer when a CP is captured, so all rounds are capped at exactly 10 minutes (rendering CPs useless).

    Other modifications include removing the open window across from each teams base.
     
  14. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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    Can i suggest making the higher paths more obvious, i think two soldiers went onto the top level in the entire game, and i was the only person to use the top infiltration path. Maybe lowering them, or putting health/ammo near the edges to make it more obvious?

    And capturing needs to give you more of an advantage. Generally, you reward teams for doing well, and penalise them for doing poorly. This helps magnify a teams advantage, and prevent stalemating. In 5-cp maps, each point is faster to capture than the last, and teams get forward spawns to reduce travel times, in hydro you get spawntime advantages the further the point is capped, in steel, the important point becomes a less and less defensible position. In this, doing well wins you a longer walk from spawn, a shorter walk for the team doing badly, and a layout that means with this huge imbalance in favour of the losers, the losers are also holding a defensible position.

    Suggestions: Longer spawn times for losers, faster spawns, (or better, forward spawns), for winners. A One-way shortcut only the winning team can access? You need something like this.

    [Derail] Does anyone think a map like this, but pulling a cart, not pushing it, would be interesting? Should stalemate less, since the better you do, the closer to spawn it is. [/Derail]
     
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  15. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    Thank You LeSwordFish. I had kind-of thought about that, but not really that much, and I didn't realize what an impact the distance would have on the map. Right now there is a short difference in spawn time when a point is captured: +2 for the team that lost the point, -2 for the team that won it. I will probably magnify this and add a forward spawn near mid.

    I also agree with you comments about the higher paths, although I don't know how to make them more obvious without making other classes think that they need to takes those routes.
     
  16. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    A4 is out

    I made the timers work, clipped off the top of the roof over the first choke point (after recreating the mid, it seemed kinda useless), and I added forward spawns! Happy days!
     
  17. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    Tripple post :O:

    Is is possible for an admin to change this thread's name to "reflection" instead of "relfection"?
     
  18. Okrag

    aa Okrag Wall Staples

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    Can't get out of this forward spawn.(Though iirc the other team's forward spawn did work.
     
  19. skinnynerd

    skinnynerd L2: Junior Member

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    Quick Fix: A4a

    Fixed Red forward spawn
     
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    aa Okrag Wall Staples

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    Rule 1. Don't trust okrag's memory.