TC clover a9

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clover - a tc map with the 4-leaf clover layout design from dust2/csgo

here is a visualization of how the 4-leaf layout looks in comparison with the one from tc_hydro (using mighty MS Paint)

the advantage of this type of layout is that each configuration is the exact same for every CPs, only the routes between them change, reduce the complexity and avoid confusion.

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[Katsu! :3]

I like the choice to highlight the Control Point using tf_glow, it makes TC much easier for players to understand. May I ask how you got it to function? I know cp_konkreet uses a similar effect but it parents the tf_glow to item_teamflag entities.

 

[Lacry]

I'm glad to see more tc maps lately, it was about time.

But for what I can see in your map i would improve a few things:
-I think its too big, I know its TC, but some of the spaces feel very big and empty.
-The spawn visualizer its not in the doors, and this is a big issue, cause the enemy team could easily spawncamp inside the spawn. And also there is no func_nobuild in them, so an Engineer can easily set a sentry infron of the players spawn area.
-The last CP area doesnt let the attacking team to comeback to their spawn, i dont know if its intentional, but i dont think its a good idea.
-And at last, i would add a map, Hydro let you see which areas are capped between rounds, and i think this is important to know how many areas are left to play, i recommend checking the 14bit prefab they have for TC

14bit's Improved Territorial Control Prefab

14bit's Improved Territorial Control Prefab This prefab includes two parts: An updated TC entity setup .vmf The files needed for a custom Round Overview To use the Round Overview, put the TCtemplate folder in your tf/custom folder Original...

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Also check the image, this happend me before.

 

[Mess About]

I like the choice to highlight the Control Point using tf_glow, it makes TC much easier for players to understand. May I ask how you got it to function? I know cp_konkreet uses a similar effect but it parents the tf_glow to item_teamflag entities.

nothing fancy, I just disable them by default and turn them on/off using team_control_point_round with OnStart/OnEnd outputs

(but I do admit that sometimes it works sometimes it dont, and I have no idea why)

 

[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

spawn update

a2
respawnroom changed
add some extra rocks
setup gate & setup time with spawn time changed on last

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[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

yeti update

a3

add Yeti

change the way spawntime works: 3s by default, 10s for the enemy team when capping
minor change to spawnroom
more rocks to block sightlines

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[Mess About]

@Katsu! :3 hey you can parent the model to an info_particle_system and it'll work properly, ty @Tiftid for showing me this trick

 

[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

honey I've shrunk the map

scale the map down by 20%
change spawntime and captime

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[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

de-samification

a5
add random nonsense landmarks to make the map less same-y
new spawntime mechanics:
- 8 mins : 3s
- 5 mins : 5s
- 3 mins : 7s
- 1 mins: 10s
- insta force team respawn on capping
change all spawnroom to have the same layout and walking distance to spawndoors

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[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

experimental

a5a
minor change to the spawntime mechanics (the previous one seems too short)
- 8 mins : 5s
- 5 mins : 10s
- 3 mins : 15s

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Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

beta worthy?

a6
final spawntime change (again):
change from using SetSpawnTime to AddSpawnTime

Default spawnTime - 6s
On 5 mins remains - 8s (add 2s)
On 3 mins remains - 10s (add 2s)

On Start capping - substract 5s to capping team, add 5s to losing team
On Break capping - reverse effect

minor layout change

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[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

complete overhaul

a7
replace all POIs with proper buildings
change respawntime mechanics (again)

no screenshots yet, still lot of work to do

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Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

smooth it out

a8
scale down last, change spawn route
sprinkle some snowy shrubs on the ground
smooth out displacements
add 1s to respawn time to stop instant spawn exploit
fix game logic bug related to last when the timer runs out (thanks Diva Dan for the fix)

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[Mess About]

Mess About updated clover with a new update entry:

put on a little makeup

a9
- update the caves (change props and textures)
- update all layout door blocks' visual appearance
- update last area
- add more light

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