KotH koth_nowhere A10

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L1: Registered
Jul 22, 2016
Alright so I ran around your map for a bit and this is what I have to say:


Why is there water here? There is no point for it in a gameplay sense. Also, use a tf2 water texture


There's a lot of these nonsolid lamposts that look like you can jump on them around the map, make them solid, clip them off, or remove a few of them


Do not use shutter doors in gameplay spaces, it doesn't really help block a sightline because a sniper can play peek-a-boo to the enemy spawn


Shutter doors are pretty bad but team-specific shutters in gameplay spaces are really annoying to fight around, what's even the point of this door? There's another health pack nearby


You can type mat_leafvis 3 in console with sv_cheats 1 on to view the visleaves that are rendering for players in real-time. It looks like you put your map in a giant skybox cube, which means that a lot of stuff that I can't see is rendering anyway. Look around in the decompiled valve maps and see how they do skyboxes


Missing noentry sign here


What's the point of this cover when I have to cross a sniper sightline to get here? I don't really see the purpose in this balcony, snipers look like they'd be pretty good on this map without it.


Snipers can peek only their heads over these boxes, which is pretty cheap as the sniper is hard to see/attack


Put patches under all hp and ammo drops, it may seem trivial but people need to know where this stuff spawns


There isn't really a point to this 2nd story, maybe add an exit up here?


Also worth noting is that you can click this blue button here so you don't have to create a new map thread every time you create a new version of your map. Make sure you change the map string name!


L2: Junior Member
Feb 11, 2018
Thanks for the criticism it will really help out the map. I read this just as I was about to ship out koth_nowhere_a5 so I guess you prevented a disaster from occurring. koth_nowhere_a6 will have all the changes you mentioned. Thank you so much for taking time to help me out, I appreciate it a ton.


L2: Junior Member
Feb 11, 2018
removed water area
removed lampshade noclip props
removed shutter doors in gameplay areas
fixed spamming areas (catwalk, crate)
added patches under health, ammo
moved up right spawned doors
added some func_details

Still need to work on:
optimization (totally new to this topic)
red door's invisible respawn room visualizer

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L2: Junior Member
Feb 11, 2018
I'm not sure to be honest. I need to playtest it more because there are issues with the map structure affecting map gameplay.