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Discussion in 'Map Factory' started by Cyber-Kun, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. Cyber-Kun

    Cyber-Kun L1: Registered

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    This is my first real decent map for TF2.

    It is a payload map designed to have something different for every point. The first point is dominated by a heavy building designed to give high ground but due to respawn times and map geometry it will be not enough. The second point requires both teams to enter a certain area that ends up being a dead end that is controlled much earlier by whoever gets the ramp.
     
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  2. phi

    aa phi Let Pain Be Your Guide

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    Alright. I downloaded this map and ran through it.
    It's pretty good for an a1. You did state that you were still testing it, so I'll keep it light.

    (Additionally, will images automatically resize if I put them in the IMG tags? Because when I preview it they come out huge and un-resized)

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    There are quite a few sightlines around here, not necessarily a bad thing but still something to think about.

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    Lighting's weird, but since it's a1 it's not a big deal.

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    This area's pretty flat, and has very little flanking routes. Add one to the left as a cave or something.

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    What's the purpose of this room? I couldn't figure out what it was for.

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    You did say that there was a height advantage. I think this is a little too much though. Snipers will dominate due to the height and ability to retreat easily.
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    ...the first point seems verrry easy to defend due to the huge height advantage for soldiers and demomen to rain spam down upon the first point.
    Widen it a lot, add more flanks and probably either lower the height advantage or cut off access to the roof entirely. Otherwise it's pretty good.

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    This hallway seems overly small. Widen it because it appears to be a main flanking route.

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    Just a nitpick but this seems like awkward placement of health/ammo.

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    This room seems pretty useless for the effort it takes to get up. Extend a ledge from the side the windows are on to make it more open or otherwise open it up to the tracks.

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    from above, a.k.a. extend a ledge out from those windows or something.

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    Personally I think this room has a lot of prop spam. It IS an alpha 1, so that doesn't matter much.
    The one gripe I have is this:
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    The payload track is not the main focus of the room, and it should be. It seems extremely easy for the blue team to push the cart along the edge, and once they get in the tunnel above the room...
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    It will be impossible to defend.
    I remember reading somewhere that the payload track should be the primary focus of a map. Put it through the center of the map or something, *it's still an alpha* so you can experiment a little.
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    Again, this is the only entrance to the final point, so defense-wise it would be tricky.
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    I figure the reason the cart goes through here is because you still have another point to design (as referenced by the extra point on the HUD)

    Altogether, pretty good for an a1, I'd focus more on gameplay than anything else. I look forward to what this becomes, if I made any mistakes just tell me.

    Cheers.
     
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  3. tyler

    aa tyler snail prince, master of a ruined tower

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    They will resize, yeah
     
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  4. phi

    aa phi Let Pain Be Your Guide

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    Thanks, because I wanted to refrain posting pictures until I knew that to avoid having unsightly gigantic pictures spamming the forum.
     
  5. Cyber-Kun

    Cyber-Kun L1: Registered

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    PDT, I've been somewhat busy so I have not had time to say anything of the late, but I Thank You heavily. I will take what you said and fix all of the issues. I admit that the general layout will still be the same, but the massive height issues and huge size will be fixed.

    The one thing you did get quite wrong is the fourth picture. There is a room that drops down into that for the attackers to use. Everything was perfect but for that.