- Dec 28, 2021
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- Thread starter Joshmaster2001
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Can you share some screenshots?
Zorb
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- Aug 2, 2021
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Your sense of scale is dangerously off. I don't really know what to say other than that usual drop heights are between 192 hu and 256, and you're making everyone on BLU drop yay high off a building to fight
there's also no light_env as evidenced by these pics, for some reason it only showed once I turned on sv_cheats. Regardless lighting is a MUST on basically any map, even enclosed ones.
I know it's alpha but please consider putting some textures besides pure white, also there's little to no height variation inbetween areas of the map.
Not to sound like an asshole but I feel you need to re-study map fundamentals, UEAKCrash's series on YouTube is one of my favorites and I still frequent it to remember certain things. I say re-study because it's clear you have an understanding of basic game logic (which is something I admit I still struggle with) but not as much for scale and actual gameplay design
And yea, it's always expected to take some pictures of your submission even in alpha stages as Snickerpuffs mentioned
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZhJF4P2vI
there's also no light_env as evidenced by these pics, for some reason it only showed once I turned on sv_cheats. Regardless lighting is a MUST on basically any map, even enclosed ones.
I know it's alpha but please consider putting some textures besides pure white, also there's little to no height variation inbetween areas of the map.
Not to sound like an asshole but I feel you need to re-study map fundamentals, UEAKCrash's series on YouTube is one of my favorites and I still frequent it to remember certain things. I say re-study because it's clear you have an understanding of basic game logic (which is something I admit I still struggle with) but not as much for scale and actual gameplay design
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZhJF4P2vI
- Dec 28, 2021
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you dumb udmb thatr is a1 not a2Your sense of scale is dangerously off. I don't really know what to say other than that usual drop heights are between 192 hu and 256, and you're making everyone on BLU drop yay high off a building to fight
there's also no light_env as evidenced by these pics, for some reason it only showed once I turned on sv_cheats. Regardless lighting is a MUST on basically any map, even enclosed ones.
I know it's alpha but please consider putting some textures besides pure white, also there's little to no height variation inbetween areas of the map.
Not to sound like an asshole but I feel you need to re-study map fundamentals, UEAKCrash's series on YouTube is one of my favorites and I still frequent it to remember certain things. I say re-study because it's clear you have an understanding of basic game logic (which is something I admit I still struggle with) but not as much for scale and actual gameplay design
And yea, it's always expected to take some pictures of your submission even in alpha stages as Snickerpuffs mentioned
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZhJF4P2vI
Regardless of whether it is a1, a2, or a-whatever, there is no need to throw insults at someone for leaving feedback.
Anyhow, my turn for feedback. First let's address the scale of the map. It's big, a trick you can do here is load in a valve map like gorge and time yourself walking from something like Blu spawn to A and compare it to your map to help get a sense of scale.
The tower idea I think is cool for something that happens during setup, I've seen other cool things done with planes and boats in frontline. Dropping into a water pit is, questionable, but works I guess.
SIghtlines. Having some sightlines in your map isn't bad, in fact most valve maps have sightlines in them but are flankable. This is just a flat plane with little to no cover.
Let's talk about A point. Having to cross a pit on a bridge isn't out of the ordinary but this is the only route you've given blu team to attack from. Red also has no ammo packs or cubbies for engineers to establish a sentry hold.
Let's talk B. It's sticking in the ground. Similar thoughts to A.
C was the same. Sightlines, no cover, no health, and no ammo.
Overall I think this map is good for you to learn hammer on and understand the editor but I would do a major rework if the routes and points or start over again. Start with getting a basic grasp of scaling in team fortress and how each class reacts differently to it, snipers benefit from longer areas whereas a class like heavy suffer from slow movement with no cover to hide from the snipers. You could also open one of the valve VMF's and copy brushwork over and convert it to a skip brush to use as a point of reference.
The biggest takeaway if you skipped over everything is scaling.
SIghtlines. Having some sightlines in your map isn't bad, in fact most valve maps have sightlines in them but are flankable. This is just a flat plane with little to no cover.
Let's talk about A point. Having to cross a pit on a bridge isn't out of the ordinary but this is the only route you've given blu team to attack from. Red also has no ammo packs or cubbies for engineers to establish a sentry hold.
Let's talk B. It's sticking in the ground. Similar thoughts to A.
C was the same. Sightlines, no cover, no health, and no ammo.
Overall I think this map is good for you to learn hammer on and understand the editor but I would do a major rework if the routes and points or start over again. Start with getting a basic grasp of scaling in team fortress and how each class reacts differently to it, snipers benefit from longer areas whereas a class like heavy suffer from slow movement with no cover to hide from the snipers. You could also open one of the valve VMF's and copy brushwork over and convert it to a skip brush to use as a point of reference.
The biggest takeaway if you skipped over everything is scaling.