CP copperhead b2e

[owly-oop]

What's the matter with it ?
It's pretty straightforward once you've set it up right.

I was having trouble setting it up, but now I'm understanding it.

 

[Trotim]

8192 is an insanely small brush limit, yay source engine!

Well Source is like 7 years old now

 

[owly-oop]

It seems like no matter how many details i use with propper, I still get tjuncts errors.

Atleast I got under the max brush limit.

edit: got them all

 

[owly-oop]

Copperhead b1b!
http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4671

THANKS TO:
Ravidge - for the metal textures that are cool and are literally 0 bytes
void - for being sexy and making cool metal wall textures I used
Boojum - for being boojum and for making the prefabs, making my life easier
Selentic - he helped me early on with the map with cool advice, and he made the waterfall model
everyone else for being a bro

Known Issues:
Funky lighting between 2-1 and 2-2
Some rock interacts weird with the 3d skybox
Grass clipping through the point in 1-2
A tiny dev textured ramp near 2-2
Gorge prop clipping through red spawn
Unalligned cliff behind 1-2 red spawn
3d skybox is lacking
fog is a weird color
waterfall is silent

 

[owly-oop]

Pakrat fucked up, none of the custom stuff was pakked.

I'll get a fixed version tomorrow. Literally everything that can go wrong has

post stuff that i missed that requires a recompile!

2-1 blu spawndoor in the cave doesnt work
grass under 1-2
dev texture ramp at 2-2
rock colliding with 3d sky above 2-1 that bothers me
setup doors at 3-1 need to look different from the one that is closed permanently
need more arrows in stage 3
and personally i think i need more trees in general

 

[Pocket]

>TV set props used as in-wall viewscreens

We need to get someone to make a real flat viewscreen model so people can stop doing that.

 

[tyler]

It looks SO GOOD but I don't like seeing the undersides of those trees :x

 

[Wilson]

You did really good job on this and it looks damn good, my only complaint is in this picture:

These windows stick out with their bright white color and look pretty silly, if they are supposed to look like there is light on behind them, you should try bit more yellow lighting so it looks more natural and sticks out less.

 

[littleedge]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1758462/maps/tf2maps/copperhead/cp_copperhead_b1b0013.jpg
Do I spy a Biodome asset with a new top?

Looks amazing, Superpie. I'll clipcheck it tonight while procrastinating on my CS homework.

 

[honeymustard]

Just looking at the pictures, the outside screenshots look a bit too clean, they need some bush/shrub models in the corners and maybe some small rocks here and there.

 

[owly-oop]

Just looking at the pictures, the outside screenshots look a bit too clean, they need some bush/shrub models in the corners and maybe some small rocks here and there.

I'll try that, I'm not so great with exteriors :\

And I'll change the window texture wilson

 

[littleedge]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0000.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0001.jpg
Outside BLU spawn (Stage 1). Triangular playerclips ain't always the best idea. If you raised the tip of the triangle to go along with the roof of the map, it'd work but that's kinda extreme.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0002.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0003.jpg
Directly outside the leftmost spawn exit for BLU on Stage 1.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0004.jpg
Stage 2 deathpit. It's kinda useless, but it's there.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0005.jpg
This is kinda neat. You're screwed if you get there, but it's there.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0006.jpg
Outside Stage 2 Spawn, I think I showed you this and you fixed it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0007.jpg
Inbetween A and B on Stage 2, I think I showed you this and you fixed it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0008.jpg
You already know.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0009.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_copperhead_b1b0010.jpg
Unsewn displacement, plus it'd be neat if those eyes were in there in the back >.> (BLU Spawn Stage 3)

 

[grazr]

Woohoo, b1 is ready but I hit the brush limit apparently and I can't get propper to work


8192 is an insanely small brush limit, yay source engine!

To be honest you're probably just being really inefficient with brushes. Not to mention you're using brushwork where models would clearly be more effective, like the I-beams which you have all over the place (though you're trying to get propper to work so i guess that's not entirely your fualt).

As for t-junctions. Try using more func_brush/func_lod/func_illusionary. I see you have a lot of details intersecting geometry that are causing t-junctions when they needn't.

It's pretty easy to get a nice looking map out under the brush limit if you watch what you're doing and are slightly more methodical with details. For example, you could use overlays for a lot of your floor trims.

Other than that, your spytech is smexy.

 

[owly-oop]

b1c released, fixed stuff

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4672

 

[owly-oop]

b1d, fixed the missing textures AGAIN, and lowered cap time for 2-2
http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4673

 

[Pocket]

For the stairs you were told to clip, I recommend a 45-degree clip on each step rather than a single one going all the way up, since they're such deep steps. Or maybe 2:3 or 1:2 if the 45 degree ones don't do enough to make it feel smooth (what's smooth for a whole staircase might still feel jerky on a single step).

 

[owly-oop]

i'm gonna kill that sentry spot on the red roof at 2-2, i never liked it. i also think i should edit the layout so that attacking from the 2nd floor of the metal structure is better, i have an idea

gonna kill that sentry spot hiding beside the titled wall on 3-1

and im gonna check my spawntimes, they felt low for red in general

 

[Rexy]

Overall I have a lot of fun, so I believe you're successful. A major complaint I have is that all of the spawn rooms are bland or boringly detailed.

 

[tyler]

the roof at 2-2 is nice to defend from, but sentries there are too good. just find some excuse to nobuild it rather than nixing it entirely, imo

 

[owly-oop]

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4675

killed the poopy sentry spots at 2-2 and 3-1, fixed up the spawntimes


polishing will be done for b2 or b3