- Thread starter honeymustard
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Better players do deserve to win but there are map elements which people highly dislike to see as a key element that makes or breaks a round or match even. Sniper sightlines are a good example of this, mappers understand that huge sightlines give a massive advantage to whichever team happens to have a better sniper, thus the sniper can essentially carry the team. Because of this mappers tend to cut down on sightlines.
I'm not saying the fact that one team can get a really fast rollout and have a massive edge on the midfight is a bad thing or something I personally dislike, i'm just pointing it out so the mapper can decide if that's an element they want to have as a prominent cornerstone for the midfight, or if they want to change the dynamic of the midfight to be more dm based rather then whoever gets there first wins.
I'm not saying the fact that one team can get a really fast rollout and have a massive edge on the midfight is a bad thing or something I personally dislike, i'm just pointing it out so the mapper can decide if that's an element they want to have as a prominent cornerstone for the midfight, or if they want to change the dynamic of the midfight to be more dm based rather then whoever gets there first wins.
Arnold
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changelog A8
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*added support pillar to bridge below the curve
*widened choke to mid
*added a small corridor in the pillars on mid
*lowered the upper platform on mid a bit
*clipped the crates and fences to be less annoying
*added a small ramp in the small choke for more interesting gameplay
*added a small ramp on the cliff side at upper route to mid
*lowered bottom area of middle
*lowered top platforms on middle
*fixed the teleporter exploding bug
*added detail
download
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_a8.bsp.bz2
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Had to fix the broken forward blu spawn, so grab a8a instead now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_a8a.bsp.bz2
Godslayer57
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Ok [INSERT FEEDBACK HERE]
Firstly is there really only 2 routes connecting the area after middle? I mean really they are too close.
Secondly...those barnblitz fences don't fit and I feel they can be replaced with something....more....intresting.
Firstly is there really only 2 routes connecting the area after middle? I mean really they are too close.
Secondly...those barnblitz fences don't fit and I feel they can be replaced with something....more....intresting.
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No, there's 3 routes, two through the "choke" area and one drop down bit. Regarding the fences... well - it's alpha 
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b1 is out now!
The changes:
b1
*detail and clipping pass
*changed some health and ammo
*moved the first forward spawn to a better place
*changed the walls on cp1
*added glows to the capture points
I've updated the screenshots in the OP.
The changes:
b1
*detail and clipping pass
*changed some health and ammo
*moved the first forward spawn to a better place
*changed the walls on cp1
*added glows to the capture points
I've updated the screenshots in the OP.
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Had to do b1a, so grab that if you downloaded b1.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b1a.bsp.bz2
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b1a.bsp.bz2
- Jul 22, 2009
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No, there's 3 routes, two through the "choke" area and one drop down bit. Regarding the fences... well - it's alpha
pushing back to middle was kinda hard without rjing up the dropdown. also it took us 29 minutes to finish the round. somehow i always find myself wanting to run behind 2nd when going to last when its actually off to the side.
Mr. Wimples
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It never seemed like there was enough health around the 2nd point. Last gameday we could hardly push back up through the chokes to mid after the other team had set up behind it because health was so sparse. even with ubers pushing past the cp2-cp3 choked proved very difficult. Additionally, the largest health I saw on the map was smack in the center of the middle choke rendering it nearly useless to the team attempting to push to mid; you could make a dash for the health but would quickly be torn to bits as soon as you did.
From what I saw there were only 2 optional routes for non-demo and non-soldier classes if you were ATTACKING mid. That seems to be the main issue. 2nd is fairly easy to defend while mid is much too difficult to push to. This makes the map stalemate. Hard. In my opinion at least one of the chokes to mid is much too small.
From what I saw there were only 2 optional routes for non-demo and non-soldier classes if you were ATTACKING mid. That seems to be the main issue. 2nd is fairly easy to defend while mid is much too difficult to push to. This makes the map stalemate. Hard. In my opinion at least one of the chokes to mid is much too small.
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New version, b2 - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b2.bsp.bz2
Changes:
- Added a route up to drop down (from mid to second)
- Removed walls on mid to second choke and second to last top route
- Widened cave route from mid to second
Screens:
Changes:
- Added a route up to drop down (from mid to second)
- Removed walls on mid to second choke and second to last top route
- Widened cave route from mid to second
Screens:
gamemaster1996
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At this stage i'd do some more skyboxing.
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I think it still needs a lot of testing and layout tweaking.
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b3
*added ramp to high area on mid
*redesigned first spawn
*made cp1 slightly smaller (allows for passing it without capturing)
*detail/clipping improvements
Also updated the pics in the OP.
Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b3.bsp.bz2
*added ramp to high area on mid
*redesigned first spawn
*made cp1 slightly smaller (allows for passing it without capturing)
*detail/clipping improvements
Also updated the pics in the OP.
Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b3.bsp.bz2
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Yep, it's not finished obviously.
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Bomp
b4
*changed layout of first spawn exit
*added more space between lobby exit and the cliff
*improved detail and minor balance changes/fixes
New pics in OP
Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b4.bsp.bz2
b4
*changed layout of first spawn exit
*added more space between lobby exit and the cliff
*improved detail and minor balance changes/fixes
New pics in OP
Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6591985/map/cp_konkreet_b4.bsp.bz2
Oh hi 2014
Can you fix this?
Can you fix this?