Koth works, but not the holographic icon or the bots.

[8bitprodigy]

so I started work on a map, I turned it into an arena map, but thought it would be better suited to the koth gamemode, so I edited everything to work as a koth map, compiled it and it works as a koth map, except the floaty holograph that says RED or BLU isn't even visible, and when I tried to playtest it with bots, they wouldn't leave the spawn.

Any help would be appreciated, and here's the .vmf, .bsp and the log if thats necessary.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Jeremy]

There are a lot of broken I/Os. Maybe that's the problem.


Also, offtopic, but some brushes that should be func_details aren't. Everything in your map in particular can be a func_detail, pretty much.

 

[tyler]

I think it's because you're missing a tf_gamerules or something. Your outputs shouldn't have red lines over them.

 

[8bitprodigy]

I think it's because you're missing a tf_gamerules or something. Your outputs shouldn't have red lines over them.

I've heard from a tutorial here that adding the tf_gamerules entity is not necessary and sometimes causes a crash, and gets added during the compile, I could be wrong, however. Also, SirRaffi, what does the func detail do?

 

[ardysqrrl]

adding tf_gamerules used to cause a crash a long, long, long time ago. They've fixed it, and in fact the entity now has several useful keyvalues

Might I suggest http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=4674 ?

 

[LeSwordfish]

Tf_gamerules has never once crashed for me. It IS something you need to have.

 

[8bitprodigy]

Alright, I'll add the tf_gamerules and see how it goes.

 

[Jeremy]

Also, SirRaffi, what does the func detail do?

Func_details are brushes that do not cut visleafs, thus reducing compile times. Think pillars, supports, suspended walkways, that sort of thing. Basically, anything that doesn't block visibility.

More information - click here.

 

[tyler]

Sometimes you are better of func_detailing entire buildings!

 

[Jeremy]

^

The whole building in Lumberyard (on the end opposite to the cliff of death) is a func_detail. ALL OF IT.

 

[8bitprodigy]

Thanks, SirRaffi, I hate waiting for compiling maps to finish, especially when you have Vis set to normal (HOOOOOOOUUUUUUURSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS)

but on the topic of the holograph, it still doesn't show up and bots still sit in the spawn like lumps (but the bots aren't really the important part.)

 

[tyler]

Look at Viaduct with func_detail off and be perplexed.

 

[Crash]

Thanks, SirRaffi, I hate waiting for compiling maps to finish, especially when you have Vis set to normal (HOOOOOOOUUUUUUURSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS)

Proper func_detailing will help that immensely.

 

[8bitprodigy]

proper func_detailing will help that immensely.

enough threadjacking!

THAT WASN"T THE POINT

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Crash]

Seriously though man, if you are sick of those long compile times, that'll fix it. It's pretty important for mapping in generally anyway, which is why everyone is commenting on it.

Learn it early and prosper or learn it late and have it bite you in the ass, basically.

And it would be thread-jacking if someone had come in that wasn't you and asked a question and everyone answered them instead.

 

[8bitprodigy]

And it would be thread-jacking if someone had come in that wasn't you and asked a question and everyone answered them instead.

True.

But anyway, Can someone help me out with the Holographic thing not working and possibly bots (if possible)?

 

[tyler]

Did you add a tf_gamerules and fix the outputs on all your entities?

For bots, did you create a nav mesh?

 

[8bitprodigy]

Did you add a tf_gamerules and fix the outputs on all your entities?

For bots, did you create a nav mesh?

I added a tf_gamerules, but I did not realize bots needed a precomputed navigation mesh. My bad.

Still trying to figure out the floaty Icon thing, It works in Arena Mode...

EDIT: Hmm, floaty thing still doesn't show up, but the map compiles faster!