I actually have fixed the Hydro spawn times with a lump edit, but I never got around to testing it with people.
Territory Control and Team Fortress 2
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What were the respawn timer changes? It would be useful to know to be able to base TC spawn times on something other than what Hydro has.
What were the respawn timer changes? It would be useful to know to be able to base TC spawn times on something other than what Hydro has.
Hydro's Actual Spawn Times:
@7mins: 10 second waves
@4mins: 6 second waves
@3mins: instaspawn
A/D Rounds
@Attackers: instaspawn
@Defenders: 10 second waves
What Hydro's spawns should be:
@7mins: 10 second waves
@4mins: 8 second waves
@3mins: 6 second waves
@2mins: 4 second waves
A/D Rounds
@Attackers: 3 second waves
@Defenders: 10 second waves
Another funny bug, the round times for both A/D rounds are different :| One of the rounds last a lot longer than the other.
@7mins: 10 second waves
@4mins: 6 second waves
@3mins: instaspawn
A/D Rounds
@Attackers: instaspawn
@Defenders: 10 second waves
What Hydro's spawns should be:
@7mins: 10 second waves
@4mins: 8 second waves
@3mins: 6 second waves
@2mins: 4 second waves
A/D Rounds
@Attackers: 3 second waves
@Defenders: 10 second waves
Another funny bug, the round times for both A/D rounds are different :| One of the rounds last a lot longer than the other.
Something I was thinking about a week or two ago...
People don't like TC because it stalemates. People don't like ADCTF because of instacap (before people made blocking).
What if you combined these? Meridian is a CTF TC, but it is traditional CTF where you need to get in and back out, and can still stalemate at times. What if you did one that was invade, taking your flag to the enemy. Could possibly work with one or two flags. (did you ever try those, shmitz? if you are reading)
People don't like TC because it stalemates. People don't like ADCTF because of instacap (before people made blocking).
What if you combined these? Meridian is a CTF TC, but it is traditional CTF where you need to get in and back out, and can still stalemate at times. What if you did one that was invade, taking your flag to the enemy. Could possibly work with one or two flags. (did you ever try those, shmitz? if you are reading)
It wouldn't go over well. The thing people don't like about ADCTF isn't the insta-cap, but that the insta-cap only has to happen once. There is no "lesson learned, they won't get through again". There's no switching up strategy to counter what the enemy just did. Once the enemy succeeds, that's it, it's over, and the map moves on.
With the traditional CTF setup, teams at least have a chance to react.
Incidentally, Icarus, your list of what hydro's spawn times should be is very close to what I ended up doing with meridian, because yeah, once spawn times hit instant it became nearly impossible to get to the flag. You could take out a sentry or two and they'd both be back up five seconds later.
TC-koth? I like the idea.
Is it possible to have more than 1 KOTH point? I've tried before I think but it didn't seem to go well.
Or...paload race TC? :mellow:
Or...paload race TC? :mellow:
Can't. 8 CP limit.
Hydro is a nice map overall but just has that "oh God, it's hydro *disconnect*" reputation. What I think ruins it is the map geomatry rather than spawn times. The "super steep" stair cases and the unbalanced differences between the Red sides and the Blue. So this encourages camping and therefore stalemates.
Is 6 stages important? It could be 3 or 4 stages.
Wasnt that the limit for points active at once?
Also, you could use them in different combinations each round, using cps in more rounds than you normally would.
Personally I hope that's the case, but I don't think it is. I've seen achievement maps with loads of CPs along the HUD but I don't remember how many there were.
It's the hard limit for the number of team_control_point entitys in a map at any time. You can work around it when you have multiple stages by reusing points. How difficult this is depends on the mode, and with TC it would be pretty difficult.