CP Winer a3

The winer

  1. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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    Winer - The winer

    A 3cp map
     
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  2. Tekku

    aa Tekku

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    I like your "winer" as well :hint:
     
  3. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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  4. Zed

    aa Zed Certified Most Crunkā„¢

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    I'm just gonna :skip: this thread for now...
     
  5. Muddy

    Server Staff Muddy Muddy

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    This map makes me tooltexture
     
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  6. HolySnickerPuffs

    aa HolySnickerPuffs Bad at TF2, Loves Mapping For TF2

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    The rock texture looks really :zoomtool:ed in to me.
     
  7. Davekillerish

    aa Davekillerish Lvl O: Orange Member

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    I wish i could :nodraw: this.... or at least :playerclip: the posts...
    Nice map, thought it was mispelt for cp_winner but aparently not
     
  8. Psy

    aa Psy The Imp Queen

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    it good
     
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  9. ades

    ades L4: Comfortable Member

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    I cant think of any decent hammer puns but it looks neat
     
  10. The Siphon

    The Siphon L6: Sharp Member

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    I like this thread, I think I will :group: up with you guys!
     
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  11. zahndah

    aa zahndah professional letter

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    Map should be disqualified for purposeful misspelling of title.
     
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  12. Davekillerish

    aa Davekillerish Lvl O: Orange Member

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    Is this an actual contest entry?
     
  13. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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    Yes
     
  14. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

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    Gonna wine shit out of this map
     
  15. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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  16. Psy

    aa Psy The Imp Queen

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    Here are some initial thoughts. Overall, the map is messy and needs a lot of major work to simplify the routes and make the flow more typical for this kind of map.

    Blue Spawn to A

    The area outside is complicated. Flatten it out and have one entrance to A (that splits into two to match the current routes) and a staircase down into the C corridor. (hard to draw, sorry!)

    upload_2016-1-28_0-7-30.png

    Blue Spawn to B

    It's so tiny and cramped. The flow forces you to make several turns. I don't understand why the railing is there; it just gets in the way.

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    A

    The defenders entrance to A isn't particularly inviting. It starts off wide then gets narrow REALLY quickly. Then there's the massive flanking route for Blu which means that moving forward as a defender easily puts you at risk of being flanked. Both of these mean that it's really hard to defend and that the Blu team can easily lock down your only entrance into the area.

    upload_2016-1-28_0-1-52.png

    B

    The flow at B means that there's a great deal of deadspace that goes unused near the dam. There's no incentive for either team to go there as it exposes them to enemy players coming from either Blu spawn or C.

    upload_2016-1-27_23-53-25.png

    It also makes defending and attacking kinda awkward because there's no space that the Blu team predominately owns, and no space that the Red predominately owns. It just turns into a messy free for all with each team mashing into each other.

    I'd suggest completely moving Blu's entrance so they enter from behind the containers or somewhere around that area. That way both teams are fighting across an area with a no man's land across the centre. You may need to rejig the whole layout of the area to make it flow nicely.

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    I think this map could benefit from a reworked Blu spawn that moves it further south and creates the typical routes where left leads to A and right leads to B without any need for the player to turn back on themselves.

    upload_2016-1-28_0-15-27.png

    I don't understand why this route splits off into two only to merge again. It splits players up for no good reason. Just ditch the area marked with a question mark and keep it simple.

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  17. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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    Thanks! I see what you mean how the "middle" of the map is basic trash. Ill probably end up re doing that entire part and make it more interesting.

    B I'm a little confused on how B could be done better without completely re making it as its trash as well.
     
  18. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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