(No names are used for obvious reasons, this isn't thread for flamewars and bashing certain people) I saw a newbie mapper one day, he was excited and wanted to get into world of TF2 mapping, he had this idea for asymmetric 5cp map, sounds good huh. Then out of nowhere people started tearing down his entire idea of such 5cp map and so newbie mapper lost his interest on mapping for TF2 as we just tear apart ideas that just motivated him to start trying this in first place, sometime later one of the older members here had even more complex idea for a map that had much larger chance to fail, people were happy and support him with every way possible. After witnessing these events, i asked myself, how did we get into this point? Not too long ago i decided to quit Conveyance, while at the time i was angry and could done things better, the reason why i did it was fact this community (Not all of it, don't get me wrong here, but part of it) seems to thinks poking the mapper every day, telling him to work on the map, is right way to go, it isn't. This isn't even the first time this has happen. I found myself asking the same question again, how did we get into this point? Now i throw the ball to you: What worrying things you have seen happen in this community? How did we get in to this point? What we can do to stop it?