What are some good standards for size in a TF2 map?

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by KaiserFate, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. KaiserFate

    KaiserFate L69: Deviant Member

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    So, I have this problem where I keep making my maps too small - even with a PlayerStart as a guide.
    I'm getting better through practice, but right now I'm only testing maps for myself in alpha stages and I realise that having a corridor only wide enough to clear one person is a bad idea in TF2.
    I have a reference in my bookmarks for actual heights of entities (teleports, a crouch-jump etc) but what I'd like to know is if there are some good, well-used measurements - even rough, ballpark figures - for basic things like "a small room", "a medium room", "hallway width", "roof heights in a clearing", etc.
    If any of you have found some nice benchmark figures that work, please share them as it would save me a lot of heartache.
     
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  3. KaiserFate

    KaiserFate L69: Deviant Member

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    Thanks. You reckon these particular room sizes are good as a rule-of-thumb?
     
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    No, but it helps you understand how large players actually are in TF2 as compared to hammer sizes.
     
  5. KaiserFate

    KaiserFate L69: Deviant Member

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    I was having a shocker before. One of my first attempts had corridors that were so low down that once I put in some prop lights, they disallowed you from walking through them. Ditto ramps that led up to the roof, so high up you had to crouch walk. It was a real mess.
    I think I'm mostly afraid of making rooms that are too big, which is a reflex as some of the Quake maps my friends and I made back in the old days were unplayably gigantic before we got it right. Seems like I'm overcompensating the other way now.
     
  6. megawac

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    For ceiling height minimum id ever go is 128 but try to keep higher, minimum width almost always 96. Wider the less explosive spam there will be
     
  7. absurdistof

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    After some experimentation, I kind of got some of my own measurements:

    Ceiling height(indoor): 128 - 192 in increments of 16, 256-512 in increments of 128.
    Door width: 96-192 in increments of 16, 256
    Walkway: 128
    Hall width: 128-192 in increments of 16, 256.
    Wall width: 8 or 16 units

    Hope those were useful, when in doubt stick to multiples of 8 or 16 above 128.
     
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