We finally have a winnner!!!!!

Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by Armadillo of Doom, May 28, 2008.

  1. Armadillo of Doom

    aa Armadillo of Doom Group Founder, Lover of Pie

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    Yes, at long last, a winner for the very first (and hopefully not last) TF2M mapping contest has been decided. I realize how long it's taken, and for that I apologize. But it's finally decided now, and the winner has been notified. First a little summary;

    After testing and much discussion, the impromptu judges narrowed down the entries to 2 choices; cp_spywinder by MangyCarface, and cp_bloodstained by Youme.
    http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=2033
    http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=2050

    Spywinder offers wicked fast-paced action, with a logical cp setup and simply breath-taking details. Bloodstained is an enjoyable multi-stage cp map with fun custom decals and good balance. The gameplay styles and pacing of the maps are as much fun as they are different. Balance-wise, both are about the same, offering multiple routes and unique fighting areas. Bloodstained does provide for some interesting confrontations as well, with a good setup around the cp's. And Spywinder not only looks good, but it looks unique as well.

    On the not so good side:
    Bloodstained is a fun little map, but seriously lacking in the visual candy. The custom decals are humorous, but easy to overlook. All of the areas are rather bland, lacking unique architecture and texturing. A decent skybox, both regular and 3d, would go a long way here. The 'middle of nowhere desert rocky setting' is one we've seen many times before, and is worth a yawn at best. As for Spywinder, there aren't many bad things I can say about it. It's a little easy to get lost, but not so much that you can't understand the layout after a few games. Unfortunately, the biggest flaw of Spywinder is that it consistently crashes any server it's played on :( And that's a real shame, b/c if the map could go even a couple hours w/out the crash, all of the other awsomeness would overcome being able to play it for only a couple hours at a time. Btw Mangy, please see me, b/c I have a pretty good idea why this is happening.

    In short;
    Spywinder plays well and is freaking amazing. While Bloodstained isn't much to look at, the gameplay and balance are about the same. And most importantly, Bloodstained is stable. So I am pleased to award Youme with a brand-spankin new Geforce 8800. Course since he lives across the globe, he might have to settle for a picture of the graphics card :p And kudos to everyone who participated. This is something we definitely want to do again, so suggestions are always welcome. And we now have a professional review-crew, so feel free to ask them to go over your map and find ways to improve. Till next time guys, happy mapping!
     
  2. Arhurt

    Arhurt L6: Sharp Member

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    Wow! Congrats to all participants and especially to the two finalists, your maps rock and are an inspiration for new mappers.

    Thanks for the people who put this contest together and made it a reality. Here`s hoping for many more to come!
     
  3. VelvetFistIronGlove

    aa VelvetFistIronGlove

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    Congratulations, Youme!
     
  4. efciem

    efciem L69: Deviant Member

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    Awsome! Way to go both of you guys.
     
  5. JTG

    JTG L2: Junior Member

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    Whoot. Finally. :p

    Grats, Youme!
     
  6. MangyCarface

    aa MangyCarface Mapper

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    Wow! A real surprise, brightened my day for sure. Thank you for the credit! My congratulations go to Youme as well, I love bloodstained.

    I would really like to fix that game-crasher, though, so I can finally release the map... Love to hear your idea, immortal :) I'll pm you, then.

    The best result here is that map review crew, hopefully the forums can establish a line of credible scoring for the mapping community now that we have a solid set of judges.
     
  7. YM

    aa YM LVL100 YM

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    ooer, I feel I should have prepared some sort of speech..

    Due to spywinder's crashing and my usual habit of looking back on things I've done and realising how much worse I was then than now I feel a bit like I've won by default, but thats probably just a modest side showing though.
    The other entries really were quite something and now this comp is over I hope we can get some more quality maps coming out.

    Well I'm going to shut up now and not say anything else. back to work on hoodoo which hopefully will be even better!

    Ninja edit: Oh yeah, thanks guys. really appreciate it :D
     
  8. Colt Seavers

    Colt Seavers L6: Sharp Member

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    Superb stuff! :cool: Love both the final maps - can't wait for spywinder to be stablised - we still enjoy playing optim on the playground which is stable :cool:

    So far as Bloodstained goes - i've said it all before - it's awesome :cool: I've played hours and hours of it and it contains that gem of all things - gameplay excellence :cool: Congrats to Youme and all who entered - you are a credit to the TF2 mapping community :cool:
     
  9. TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

    TheDarkerSideofYourShadow L10: Glamorous Member

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    Congrats to Mangy and Youme for being finalists, and again to Youme for winning. I came to this site late in the contest, so I got to enjoy the more complete versions, and yeah, I found them all fun. Good luck in the future, and keep up the good work :-D
     
  10. AWESOME-O

    AWESOME-O L10: Glamorous Member

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    congratulations, you won.
    GForce 8800 Nice, i still got an Gforce 6600 :(
     
  11. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Congrats Youme and MangyCarface. Have seen pics of bloodstained but still need to check them maps out, for sure.
     
  12. Vander

    Vander L8: Fancy Shmancy Member

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    Congrats to both of you!
     
  13. hydrage

    hydrage L1: Registered

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    Congratulations, Youme!

    MangyCarface, very nice try. Huge bummer about the map crash.
    Try using the "Entity Report" tool to look for any brush entities that don't have any actual brushes tied to them. I just recently found out this was an issue that was crashing one of the maps I'm working on.
     
  14. MangyCarface

    aa MangyCarface Mapper

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    This intrigues me.
    Couple q's:
    Was your map crashing immediately or as randomly/intermittently as mine?
    How did you use Entity report to find what you wanted?
    Etc. Anything could help :)
     
  15. hydrage

    hydrage L1: Registered

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    Hey Mangy, I replied to the message you sent me.

    So as to not hijack this thread, I created a new thread in the Mapping Discussion forum regarding this issue: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=2455



    Once again, congrats on the contest!
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2008