vavlve killed my PC!

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by 94Sniper, Jan 16, 2009.

  1. 94Sniper

    94Sniper L1: Registered

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    hey guys,
    I had to get rid of valve from my PC cuz it was messing with my internetz router, or something like that. I had to restart my computer after using TF2 so that I could use the internet. But now that I've seen idiots of Garry's mod (LOL), I want garry's mod SOOO BAAAADD!!!!!!! My internet connection is normally peak of perfection, but only does this AFTER using steam. How can steam affect my internet and how can I fix it?

    Thanx!
     
  2. Spike

    Spike L10: Glamorous Member

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    ¬¬ Valve didn't kill your PC.

    It happens to me too, but after I wait 2 minutes after closing a Steam game internet works like normally
     
  3. 94Sniper

    94Sniper L1: Registered

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    o rly? i'd try it, but that would take me hours to set up and then Id be super PO'd if it didnt work. Do you have wireless internet?
     
  4. drp

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    It's the refreshing of the servers in your steam client. They bog down the router.
     
  5. 94Sniper

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    so... just don't ever refresh and problem solved? or what?
     
  6. Spike

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    Yeah i have wireless.

    BTW if you have wireless and Vista you should download WLAN Optimizer, it fixes some important things.
     
  7. 94Sniper

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    lack of vista =D, I got XP
     
  8. ArgH

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    Sounds like the router has most likely a lot of half-open TCP-Sessions[1] and/or your NAT-table from your router is full.

    Small routers have a small memory for NAT (saying 256 simultanious NAT-sessions), which means that after the NAT-table is full the next NAT-connection creates a buffer-overflow messing up the router's internal memory(this is a very bad thing!) - or (as in your case) just drops the new NAT-session.

    This is a known issue, especially if you also use bittorrent.

    Possible solution:

    1. Eliminate all unneccesary programs in the background, especially those who always connect to the net (like IM-clients, bittorrent-clients, gnutella, close your browser, etc.), before playing TF2 (this also gives you a better ping-time)

    1.1 Check for spyware/adware!
    1.2 Check for spyware/adware again !!

    1.3 There is a slight chance that this is related to windows. Since Win XP SP2 Microsoft has reduced the limit for 'half open tcp sessions'. Read this:

    http://blog.davidkaspar.com/archives/2005/04/windows-xp-sp2-and-event-id-4226.php

    2. Buy a better router. (100€ + for the router - I recommend Zyxel for @home)

    3. search your router-manual if you could configure the nat-session-timeout for inactive sessions(half-open TCP sessions) to a lower value.

    ArgH

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-open_connection