I'm trying to wrap up my first TF2 map. It's a fairly large open-area CTF map - similar in layout to 2Fort but bigger. Up to now I've just been using fast vis and fast rad for previewing it, but now that it's ready for try-out I want to do normal vis and rad. Trouble is, normal vis takes forever! I have a 2.4GHz machine. Fast preview only takes about ten minutes to build my map. But I've let it run on normal for 24 hours and it still hasn't got past 80% of the second vis pass. I've added some hint brushes - and admittedly I'm no expert at this - and although it seems to be slightly faster it's still looking like a multi-day process. I don't want to dedicate my machine to this for days on end, especially if I have to revise the map. So my question is: is this typical? What's the average vis time for your map on normal? Unless "days" is typical, I'm inclined to abandon this map.