TwoRickety

KotH TwoRickety A2

Some Guy you know?

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Rickety - A twist on KOTH

Some idiot decided to build both of the team's bases right next to each other. Let's see if they can manage to stop fighting each other long enough to actually cap the point.

Originally a Experiment, this map was spun out into a semi-gimmick map revolving around both teams getting into early engagements before reaching the control point at the far end of the the central arena.


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Anguish

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Put this in an imp, there's one coming up pretty shortly. I want to see how this plays!
 

Some Guy you know?

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Starting work on a big overhaul of the map's design, making it a bit more conventional KOTH maps layout-wise.

Starting off, mid entrances are going to be moved to be opposite each other instead of parallel. I'm also removing the side passage and room as I think too many fights were occurring in there than the actual mid, which resulted in the map feeling too spaced out.

To reflect how the entrances to mid are going to be moved closer to the point, I'm making the point a bit easier to defend, with a smaller cap radius and more cover.

Rollout/spawn is gonna be completely reworked to also tone down the defender advantage due to these changes.
 

Some Guy you know?

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Lots of general changes to the mid this update to help direct gameplay flow to the midpoint, instead of fighting still mostly occurring at the wrong end of the map, causing stalemates.

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Entrance to the mid has been closed and cover has been rearranged, shutting off a few problematic Sniper sightlines onto mid and also pushing people closer to the mid.

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Mid has more cover, as well as a rework of the flank ramp onto point. Furthermore, the cap radius has been increased. Hopefully leading to more dynamic mid fights.

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Removed lower path to the other team's side, hopefully reducing the amount of players simply making a beeline for the other team's spawn instead of the point.

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Entrance into the mid side corridors reworked, mostly just because.

Doors on either side should no longer slam in your face, either.

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Update mostly focusing on health, both getting onto and around the point, with the addition and changes of healh packs surrounding the point, to make attacking from more angles more viable.

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Health and ammo have been added to the Pillar room to reduce having to backtrack if you fight a enemy in here on way to the point.

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Door into the mid corridor has been removed, no more stumbling face first into Pyros/Stickytraps. Also Health leading into the point has been changed into a mid, positions of this may be swapped with the pillar room based on playtesting.

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Furthest Flank corridor has been given some slight height variation to make it less dull/risky for people taking this route out.

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Spawn has been shrunken down, reducing time it takes to get into the important parts of the map by a little.

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Complete rework of entrances to mid, and a few minor changes to the point itself, this update.

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The campy corridors of death have been removed, replaced with two split entrances to mid from the Pillar room, reducing the effectiveness of just dumping Sentries right next to the point, but still allowing teams to keep a foothold near to the point.

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Side walls have been fenced off, and the point's cap radius has been reduced, allowing Demomen cover to take out any sentries on the point, and reducing Scout's mobility on and off the point.

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The lower entrances have been reworked, reducing the corridor-ness and allowing for easier pushes out.

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Some Guy you know?

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Another Major/Minor change to mapflow this time, in preparation for what I have in mind for the detailing, the side "shack" that breaks up both team's side of the map has been redesigned, allowing much easier access for non-jumper classes, as well as prepping it for what I have in mind for it for the artpass.

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Also, all stairs have now been Blockbulleted, for all fans of shooting rockets at staircases.

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After constant onesided matches, I've decided it's time to really look at the core design of the map and rework it. I'm working on another Major update that'll rework the Mid's layout and increase the verticality of the map, giving attackers more options for aggression onto the point itself.

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A WIP screenshot of some of the planned changes to the map.
 

Some Guy you know?

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Here's another big change to the mid flow, one of these is going to work, I swear.

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First is the addition of some more height advantage for Defenders in the spawn rollout, go build some sentries.

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No more shutter doors onto mid! (again), also the addition of a Sniper Balcony should hopefully add some more excitement to pushes, as well as give them something to do other than be killed having to stand next to people they're sniping.

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General readjustments of sightlines all over the map to accommodate for the new balcony, hopefully ensuring pro Sniper mains don't get too suddenly threatening, as well as a widening of the main entrances onto the point, reducing the effectiveness of just dumping Sentries onto the point further.

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After realizing the current split entrance was too confusing for new players, it's been converted into a single simple staircase, which serves basically the same purpose as a more surprise 3rd route/escape route.

The shack has been converted into a proper shack, reducing the effectiveness of just standing on the roofs and spamming at the far entrances, as well as splitting the map up a bit more.

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Mid's roof has been opened up, offering Soldiers a chance to bomb down onto the point and clear any defenders.

Minor changes this version also include:

  • Increased the height of the skybox in the rollout, Rocket Jumper Soldiers rejoice.
  • Adjusted spawn times for the teams even more, hopefully reducing defender advantage further on the point.
  • Adjusted some health kits around the map.
  • Reduced time to cap, just a 'lil.
  • Spawns have some (very WIP) detailing in them to make them less giant boxes.

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Some Guy you know?

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Mostly a quick readjustment of the rollouts this edition.

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Only major change to Mid was splitting the single staircase into two, for better flow on the lower area of the map.

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No more Door into rollout, as I felt this was causing people to be a bit too cautious heading in there, and thus encouraging the other team to head into it and spawn camp a defensive team, also note the addition of a extra route into the side flank, for sneakier flanking if you do happen to get spawn camped.

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It leads to a dropdown, allowing you to flank around.

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After nearly half a year of not touching the map, I came back and did a massive overhaul of it, streamlining the layout and gameplay to hopefully make a much better KOTH map experience.

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Mid has been redesigned, reducing Scout's advantage via abusing props and ledges for quick getaways, as well as removing the various steps and ramps, making it a more pleasant travelling experience for slower classes.

Shack has been removed, as it provided too good a hold position for the defending team.

Sniper Balconies have been added to the far side of each point, giving Snipers more options for where they want to headshot dudes from.

Point area has been redesigned, providing more cover for a attacking team.

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Spawn has been redesigned, making navigation much more simple and correctly guiding players to the intended main route, instead of confusing users. Furthermore, several flank routes that led to flank routes that led to flank routes have been removed, aiding flow onto the main point.

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"Long Flank" has been completely redesigned, changing from a pointless detour that dumps you in a terrible spot on the map, to a strong sniping position and hold spot at the expense of travel time.

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The main entrance to the point, the "Pillar Room" has been removed, replaced with more open and simple staircase room, as well as the redesigned spawn making it see more use.

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Comparison shots of the "old" version, shown on top, and the "new" version on the bottom.

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You thought this map dead, but it's back with a vengeance.

Now the LAYOUT HAS BEEN FLIPPED, THINGS HAVE BEEN SHUFFLED AROUND, and it LOOKS SLIGHTLY LESS LIKE GARBAGE ~OOOOoooOOOOOoo~

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The map has now been mirrored on both sides, making it slightly less confusing whenever you swap teams, as well as making the Mid (hopefully) more interesting.

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Mid has been shrunken, redesigned and fucked around with, fixing a lot of sightline issues that plagued the previous version, but with new, slightly less bullshit spots for Snipers to make up for it.

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Spawn areas for both teams had a quick art pass and alterations to make players stop hammering their -explode bind the second they look at them.

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The main room onto point got a extra entrance, making it slightly harder for Engineers to camp in here.

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Some more mid tweaks comin' your way in this probable final Alpha version

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Reworked main entrances onto point, pushing them further to the center and shrinking the area the point actually takes up, making it no longer possible to have sniper duels on it's extreme length.

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Added a new side flank for fun antics and better pushing power against a team all up in your grill.

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And last and most importantly for those with broken spacebars, stairs have been added to the "Previously a object jumpy area" area.

Other than that, various tweaks, fiddlings and fucking around with sightlines to hopefully make Snipers not constantly headshot you through a tiny hole in the wall.

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goem

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Based on screenshots, the capture zone seems sort of claustrophobic. I could be wrong though.

The area it's in looks to be ~500 x 400, so that's 10 player widths by 8 player widths, plus it's got some pretty open doorways. The screenshot looks like it's at a bit of a deceiving angle to me.