Discussion in 'Map Factory' started by NovaSilisko, May 23, 2009.
Somewhere, deep in the Hawaiian lava fi--
This map makes me sweat just looking at it.
I love me some lava. Looks like a great map.
Lava looks like pizza sauce. I'm hungry!
Added download link.
Fun map. For blue it seemed very hard to cap the middle point after we capped the 2nd to last. Also last cap time is too long I think. The sentry spots are rare, but that doesnt seem too bad. Also there are some spots with ammo and health outside of a resupply area. I think it is redundant, if it is for red put it some where else. I think the map needs directional signs. The layout is pretty straight forwards, but I didnt know which cap point I was going to. Maybe label them with a, b, c ect and have directional arrows going to those letters. Or just have arrows saying this way to the control point. I really didnt see much else. Good job!
Few people seemed to notice the far right shortcut route from base to CP3. Might want to streamline that if you intend to keep that route. Also, needs StalemateOnTimelimit
Ill link my images instead, otherwise this page gets pretty laggy to load.
This is too narrow. There is no room for actual combat, just spam and fire.
I would delete part of the building (to the left) because all it does now is breaking my stride towards the next point.
This place is dull! You could add some amazing lighting effects in this area to spice it up.
The metal barriers feel just.. out of place. I see why they are needed but some sort of brushwork barriers would work better I think. I also got stuck on them when I tried to escape away from the point (twice!).
The distance from last to second in pretty short, and there is no natural area of conflict... combat just takes place all over and sometimes the second point got capped back and forth with just a minute of ownership for each team at a time.
Someone mentioned ingame that the sky was too bright and I agree, you have a nice setting on the map that kind of collides with the blue sky.
Last point is beautiful and for the short time we played I think its a good final part. Its defendable and attackers have lots of routes in. It Might be a little sentry friendly at a first glance, we'll see...
Playing this at gameday, here's my thoughts and observations:
-The last cap for either team was damn near impossible to cap. It took 25 minutes to finish one round of the map.
-Lighting was a little dim.
-Need for directional signs. In the alpha versions, I was completely lost, but beta made it a little better. But still, more directional signs please.
-I noticed two windows at the central control point buildings, they were sealed off with a metal brush. I was wondering if this was on purpose, or you just don't want to give snipers an advantage.
-The caps were very close to one another (3-2 took maybe 10 seconds or less)
Overall, I love the theme. Good map, good textures.
Oh yeah, I forgot... the setup is broken, while I was waiting for the gates to open (because I assumed they were locked) 3 scouts burst through and killed me.
oh, your forward spawn rooms (near cp2) have faildoors.
Just typed this out in chat (for you funnily enough) and I thought it applicable here since your map doesn't follow it.
You've got the final two control points too ambiguous as to which comes first, on multiple occasions I ended up at the final one before the previous was capped without realising it. <- pretty terrible map flow if players are doing that
Yeah, I'm thinking of revising that section of the layout heavily. But I have a contest entry to work on, so that will come later.
Edit: Hell, after going over it, I might nuke the map and start from scratch.
Edit2: Fuck the contest, I'll just do this.
nukes on a volcanic island? sounds dangerous.
I am running this map in my playtest this week.
Looks like the engi wants a kiss! <3
Had a lot of fun, summary of suggestions:
- Make it bigger. Not necessarily WIDER, as that was fine, just more to do at some places. Gameplay was great though, so be sure it stays that way
- Make more routes around the middle point. Middle points need to be assaulted from all directions - I loved your little healthpak and ammo where you could charge into the point from above, make a few more things like that!
- Sentry spot on ledge next to last point is very hard to take out.
We played this map for a good amount of time last night. It played well and looks really nice.
The flow of play is a little confusing. While I didn't actually end up walking the wrong way or anything, there were times where I felt that I didn't know where I was supposed to go from my spawn point.
While arrows may not be necessary, adding a few near the spawns would help keep people from feeling confused. Sorry if this doesn't make sense but the feeling I had was unique to this map. I can try and explain it better if it doesn't make sense.
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