Steam 2010 - Hammer bug?

[Jakkarra]

Oh thank god.

 

[Freyja]

Can someone explain to me how Manifest is different to visgroups

 

[grazr]

Well as Porkchop quoted it has different functionality. Visgroups would just be an inferior version i guess, like decals to overlays. But it's obviously a little more complicated than that. Also, as Rickmus stated, some functionality hasn't reached the public version of Hammer.

I guess we'll find out in due time.

 

[Psy]

AFAIK, instancing is exactly the same as it is in the L4D2 SDK.

 

[Nutomic]

AFAIK, instancing is exactly the same as it is in the L4D2 SDK.

Could you explain that a bit closer? Not everyone here mapped for l4d2 (at least i didnt)

 

[YM]

Could you explain that a bit closer? Not everyone here mapped for l4d2 (at least i didnt)

you can tell it to instance another vmf inside the one you're working on. its very useful for level transitions, in the new map you can instance the old one, then get the transition perfect, then turn off the instance

 

[Shmitz]

Isn't it also how multiple game modes can exist in a single bsp in L4D? Or am I thinking of something else?

 

[YM]

I thought that was the lump files they use

 

[AgeNt_]

im finding it very frustrating that now while in and you selected a face, you cant use the arrows to turn your camera, instead it moves the UV's on that face.

 

[Hideous]

I prefer pressing Z to rotate my view anyway.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

im finding it very frustrating that now while in and you selected a face, you cant use the arrows to turn your camera, instead it moves the UV's on that face.

Oh my god, that makes texturing about 10X harder now!

Is there any other ways to rotate? on keyboard?

 

[Nutomic]

I thought that was the lump files they use

Werent lump files to add stuff to fnished bsp files?

I think they used a lump file to add that robot voice + drag to the portal ending.

 

[YM]

Werent lump files to add stuff to fnished bsp files?

I think they used a lump file to add that robot voice + drag to the portal ending.

Yes, that was my point. you make the initial bsp as one mode then use a lump file to turn it into the other modes. I don't know if they still use that but thats what happened when survival mode was originally released.

 

[Nutomic]

Oh, then i got you wrong on that. Never mind

 

[The Political Gamer]

Oh my god, that makes texturing about 10X harder now!

Is there any other ways to rotate? on keyboard?

Yeah it blows, I am going to try and get valve to make it an option between the 2 but I don't think it will happen any time soon.

Anyway the only workaround I have found is to click outside the 3D preview and the you can use the arrow keys again. But its still a pain in the ass.

 

[Hideous]

Workaround: Press Z on the 3D view.

 

[Freyja]

Mouse look as Hideous said makes mapping 9001x faster anyway. I don't know how anyone can use the arrow keys, its so...limited.

 

[The Political Gamer]

I know it is fast. Its just frustrating to get used to something as simple as texturing and then have to re-learn it from the ground up.

 

[Geal]

So how 'bout that new displacement menu, eh?

 

[YM]

So how 'bout that new displacement menu, eh?

I'll figure it out eventually