Soldier shots

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2 Talk' started by DJive, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    Ok mind my ignorant but this is a serious question.

    Im seeing more and more youtube videos and other stuff pop up showing these people using soldier and making the most incredible shots.. IE aiming.

    Using one rocket to pop someone up, then before they even see the rocket pop them up, automatically going to "where they would be".

    Is this just the skill of some people? honestly i can help but think its a cheat =(
     
  2. A Boojum Snark

    aa A Boojum Snark Toraipoddodezain Mazahabado

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    I'd say skill... if the second is fired before the target is knocked upwards I don't see how any cheat could predict movement that isn't occurring yet.
     
  3. Nineaxis

    aa Nineaxis Quack Doctor

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    Unless it runs the where-that-person-will-be physics trajectory...
     
  4. DJive

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    stuff like this is absolutely absurd. Ones where you even double shots in the air?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1qdkcl5ME8&e

    im not saying anyone is cheating in anyway, but stuff like this and other videos make my jaw drop.
     
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  5. Apex_

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    I don't really find that kind of thing difficult to be honest, but I do play a lot of soldier (or used to anyway). I've gotten considerably better at rocketjumping of late, to the point I'm the only one in my circle of server regulars who can beat the Rocketeer map.

    Rockets take a good bit of skill to predict, but they're a hell of a lot easier than demo primary grenades. I fancy myself a damned good shot with those things, and I wish people would try to learn them instead of spamming nades and switching to stickies the other 90% of the time.
     
  6. AWESOME-O

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    The rockets i can do myself 2, but the demoman, well, it seems a little cheaty to me, i think the nades dont fly that far
     
  7. grazr

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    I've been playing soldier a lot recently myself, somewhat of a responce to the pyro upgrade (thinking reflecting rockets makes solly's redundant! Balls! I'll show em..).
    I've been pretty good at getting combo's and and becoming rermarkably good with strafing shots.. that hit people running sideways from me. Even from a distance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuaJ8r_aE-U&feature=related That guys a bit much tho!

    One of the things i find is to not dodge their rockets and they shoot wide.. every time xD it really pisses them off because they obviously expect the kill :p
     
  8. Nineaxis

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    Bah, Frozenshift. I usually leave the game if he appears, because nothing annoys me more than being consistently killed by a soldier, hopelessly flung into the air, awaiting death...
     
  9. Crimson

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    This is by no means cheating. That map hes on and another one I play a lot of. I play soldier/demoman as my only two classes, as does he, and its really easy to predict where they are going to fly.

    It is not so easy when your at different angles, or when your actually in game. Notice you never see him shoot them off sideways and try and hit them. It is very freaking hard because you cant judge their peak very well. What hes doing it shooting at their feet as they reach their peak. When your in game, all these other factors come into play such as if the players jumping when your rocket explodes (if not they dont go nearly as high) or if they are strafing they fly sideways, etc.

    So basically shooting bots where all they do is jump in place is a hell of a lot easier than popping someone up in game and hitting them in the air consistently. I consider myself decent at it, but ive played ctf_bball2 vs some of the top soldiers in TF2 and those guys are disgusting. No matter which way I rocket jump, they will nail me.

    *On Another Note*

    I would love to see someone attempt to create an aimbot for rockets/pipes. They are in for a lot of headaches and eventually defeat.
     
  10. Sarah

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    You know he has a map that helps you 'train' this skill ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1qdkcl5ME8

    It's one of the higher skill curves to the solider, it's players like that which disprove people saying solider is an easy class and "any noob can play soldier and fire crit rockets all day " *rolls eyes*
     
  11. Spike

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    UT players would find soldier class easy to master
     
  12. DJive

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    I agree and i AM one of those people who say "noobs play soldiers" Sorry.. i am, 1 out of 50 doesn't justify it as a high skill class. What i mean by this is although there IS a higher skill bracket with this classes, its so "noob friendly" that most players playing soldier are fine with that and don't stride to be better.

    To those who do.. i hate you =p
     
  13. MrAlBobo

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    yay, more soldier hate!
    but yeah...crit rockets suck...oh and i think you meant to say "strive"
     
  14. AWESOME-O

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    I hate you 2 :)
     
  15. drp

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    nah its not cheating. ive dont this a few times, but its weird. i know you cant actually tell where a target will be at all times, but when you pop someone up with the initial rocket, you can kind tell where hes gonna fly to.
     
  16. drp

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    die in a barrel of toxic waste :)
     
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  17. DJive

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    From you!? you and your haacks with the sniper rifle pfft!!
     
  18. Snipergen

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    Not a cheat, believe me.
    Tbh I do this stuff ingame too.
    I'm only impressed by the vid of the guys that play the original TF with the rocket launchers, that's some mad skill.
     
  19. laghlagh

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    It's a conspiracy towards DJive.
     
  20. ChronoTriggerFan

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    I downloaded the map and tried it out, not that hard, actually. Perhaps the double rocket requires the practice... It sure seems that way.