Skybox not packing with map

[DisruptedHunter]

Hi, I'm having a problem where my skybox texture is not packing into my map. I have sky_goldrush_01 set up in map properties under "SkyBox Texture Name". I am using Vide as the packbspgui. When I pack everything with Vide, the .vmt files for the skybox are there but it it is buggy and streaks everything on the screen when I look at the sky. I have tried deleting the .vmt's but then that makes all my props into errors. I have manually put both the skybox .vmt and .vtf into my map still makes my props into errors.

I have tried so many bspzipguis and none of them work very well besides Vide. Pakrat doesn't get everything and corrupts my map. Packbsp and cannonfodder's has not been able to work for me since steampipe. The one's on the Developer Wiki don't work for me either.

Has anyone run into a problem like this? I was told that I don't need to add the skybox to the pack, because it should already be built into the map unless it is a custom skybox texture, which it isn't. Also, when I manually add sky_goldrush_01 I go to materials/skybox. Is that the wrong filepath perhaps?

 

[Freyja]

sky_goldrush_01 is a stock skybox. You don't need to pack it, everyone already has it. You don't need to pack anything included in the game.

If you're getting the streaks in the skybox (hall of mirrors, I assume?) then you've most likely got a leak. Go map > load pointfile and make sure it's sealed before trying to continue.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

sky_goldrush_01 is a stock skybox. You don't need to pack it, everyone already has it. You don't need to pack anything included in the game.

If you're getting the streaks in the skybox (hall of mirrors, I assume?) then you've most likely got a leak. Go map > load pointfile and make sure it's sealed before trying to continue.

There is no leak, I just did that, it just did the thing where it wants to save the map to .lin or whatever which is typically what it does when no leak. I've compiled it multiple times, ran it through interlopers, no leak.


** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Users\Desiree\Documents\Tf2 maps\Mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.vmf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Sep 15 2014)
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materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Users\Desiree\Documents\Tf2 maps\Mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.vmf
"materials/mytextures/custom_blackfukufsfkjsd.vtf": cached version doesn't exist
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Can't find surfaceprop WoodWood_Lowdensity for material MYTEXTURES/CUSTOM_TABLECLOTH, using default
Can't find surfaceprop stone for material EGYPT/HYRO_BORDER_BUMP_NEW, using default
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Patching WVT material: maps/achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1/egypt/sky_sand_waves_01_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1/egypt/sand_floor_blend_03_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1/nature/blendrockgroundwallforest_viaduct_event_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1/dev/dev_blendmeasure_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1/harvest/ground_to_green_grass_001_wvt_patch
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*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_goldrush_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_goldrush_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!
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qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.

qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.

qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.

qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.

qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.

qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.
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** Executing...
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** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" -fast "C:\Users\Desiree\Documents\Tf2 maps\Mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Sep 15 2014)
fastvis = true
4 threads
reading c:\users\desiree\documents\tf2 maps\mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.bsp
reading c:\users\desiree\documents\tf2 maps\mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.prt
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Building PAS...
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writing c:\users\desiree\documents\tf2 maps\mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.bsp
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** Executing...
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** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Users\Desiree\Documents\Tf2 maps\Mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Sep 15 2014)

Valve Radiosity Simulator
4 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[34 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\users\desiree\documents\tf2 maps\mapping\hotel\achievement_idle_cy4g_hotelb1.bsp
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All I get, but again stuff I usually get with every map I make and stuff that doesn't cause problems.


Also it's basically like this, I had everything working in my map when I packed except the skybox. I removed the skybox texture that I had added and then the skybox works but suddenly all my props are errors. It's just one or the other and this is frustrating that I have problems every time with packing when I finish a map.

 

[henke37]

NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!
NODRAW on terrain surface!

There's your problem.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

There's your problem.

Pretty sure that's not my problem since the other version of the map is up and running on my server and has that issue as well. I've already tried to run through all my nodraws and displacements and couldn't find it. I know this isn't the issue because the version I have up wouldn't be working.

 

[nightwatch]

Pretty sure that's not my problem since the other version of the map is up and running on my server and has that issue as well. I've already tried to run through all my nodraws and displacements and couldn't find it. I know this isn't the issue because the version I have up wouldn't be working.

You should still fix it though. Uncheck all your visgroups, recheck displacements. Should be a quick fix.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

You should still fix it though. Uncheck all your visgroups, recheck displacements. Should be a quick fix.

I fixed it. I noticed in the compile log I get this

can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!

Description:
You have entered a skybox texture which doesn't seem to be valid. Make sure you don't specify the last three letter (_UP, _DN, etc) of any skybox texture you use. You may also need to fix your vmt files if they are broken. It may also be caused by compiling a non-HDR skybox texture.

Solution:
Fix $hdrbasetexture errors first
WIKI: Skybox


The affected object may not work/appear properly


Would this be the issue? I'm pretty damn sure I always get issues like this and they never have made the map unpackable. But better safe then sorry. I'd like to state that the map works perfectly fine when I test it in game, it's just when packed and testing on other computers that I am having this issue.

 

[Lampenpam]

There's your problem.

That only causes visible nodraw textures. nothing really map-breaking.
But yes, you should delete all unecessary displacements. You seem to have a lot of them.

I fixed it. I noticed in the compile log I get this

can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!

Description:
You have entered a skybox texture which doesn't seem to be valid. Make sure you don't specify the last three letter (_UP, _DN, etc) of any skybox texture you use. You may also need to fix your vmt files if they are broken. It may also be caused by compiling a non-HDR skybox texture.

Solution:
Fix $hdrbasetexture errors first
WIKI: Skybox


The affected object may not work/appear properly


Would this be the issue? I'm pretty damn sure I always get issues like this and they never have made the map unpackable. But better safe then sorry. I'd like to state that the map works perfectly fine when I test it in game, it's just when packed and testing on other computers that I am having this issue.

This error is always there in TF2 and you can always ignore it.

There was something else in your compile log which looks very unusual:

"
qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.
"
How could you miss that, henke37?
And no idea what it is, never saw it before.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

That only causes visible nodraw textures. nothing really map-breaking.
But yes, you should delete all unecessary displacements. You seem to have a lot of them.




This error is always there in TF2 and you can always ignore it.

There was something else in your compile log which looks very unusual:

"
qhull precision error: Only 4 facets remain. Can not merge another
pair. The convexity constraints may be too strong. Reduce the
magnitude of 'Cn' or increase the magnitude of 'An'. For example,
try 'C-0.001' instead of 'C-0.1' or 'A-0.999' instead of 'A-0.9'.
"
How could you miss that, henke37?
And no idea what it is, never saw it before.

Interlopers says nothing about that being an issue, I have no idea what that is. Like I said the map works perfectly fine in game, it's just packing I have the issue with. Yes I have a lot of displacements because my map is a beachy area with a lot of hills. I still don't know a fix...It's been two days and I still can't get the map packed all the way.

 

[A Boojum Snark]

it's just packing I have the issue with.

I still don't know a fix...It's been two days and I still can't get the map packed all the way.

As has been stated, it isn't a packing issue. Everyone has the goldrush skybox because it is part of the game. There is some other error causing your skybox to not render.

Well... unless by chance packing IS the problem, and something you did is packing wrong, and there is an invalid/broken goldrush skybox being packed in that then overrides the stock one and fails to load. Does the sky work if you don't do any packing?

 

[DisruptedHunter]

As has been stated, it isn't a packing issue. Everyone has the goldrush skybox because it is part of the game. There is some other error causing your skybox to not render.

Well... unless by chance packing IS the problem, and something you did is packing wrong, and there is an invalid/broken goldrush skybox being packed in that then overrides the stock one and fails to load. Does the sky work if you don't do any packing?

The sky works in game perfectly fine. If thats what you mean.

If you mean not adding the sky at all to the packed version then yes that makes it work but then that makes all the props turn into errors even tho they are in the packed version. I said both these things earlier, hope I am saying it clear. This is really really frustrating.

Just tried a compiled version with the displacement nodraw thing fixed, it's still doing it. I added the vtf and vmt's again. The sky wasn't working so of course, the models worked.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

Sorry for the double post but we tried this on ANOTHER computer. We rebuilt the cubemaps and well..the sky is working. But it made some props go invis. Any idea?...................

after I type mat_specular 1 it looks like this and the errors keep going. Here's a pastebin of the errors I get

http://pastebin.com/Zt3rz8X5

I'm so lost here.

-EDIT-

I tried deleting stuff so I didn't have any very full data and that didn't fix anything..........I've been trying stuff basically every day all day for 3 days now and can not figure out what is wrong. I even tried changing the sky texture to dustbowl, same thing doesn't show unless I rebuild the cubemaps, and then the sky works but most models don't work...

Can someone please help me?

 

[Pocket]

For what it's worth, I punched "qhull precision error" into Google, got a bunch of results for unrelated programs, and added hammer at the end and narrowed it down to three. One still unrelated, and two where it was spat out by the Counter-Strike Source game console, not Hammer. So congratulations, you are the very first person in history to report this issue!

 

[A Boojum Snark]

Have you verified the TF2 content? It is really looking more and more like significant corruption.

 

[DisruptedHunter]

Have you verified the TF2 content? It is really looking more and more like significant corruption.

I verified my integrity on the computer the map was made/compiled on and it said 1 file couldn't verify so it was re-acquired, I also did it on the computer I have recently been testing the packed version on. Same scenario. This didn't fix the issue with the packed version


I don't know what to do. I went back to trying to use pack rat, still same issue, tried vide, still same issue.

 

[radarhead]

Send us your vmf... someone can take a look at it

 

[DisruptedHunter]

Send us your vmf... someone can take a look at it

Here is my vmf:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/6p44j8

I think it was my cubemap because I got rid of it and fixed it. What happened is that I deleted the cubemap, packed the map, and tested it on my second computer. The skybox was fixed, but all of my custom models were giant error signs. So I just went onto my server with the previous version of the map to reload the models. I reloaded my newest version of the map and everything is now fine.

The weird part is that I did not mess with the cubemap, it was there from the previous version and I added new features to the map, so I am not sure why the cubemap would be messing with the skybox.

Can anyone please try to figure out the issue exactly? I would like to have my cubemap in my map eventually and try to prevent this problem in the future

-EDIT-

its not a cubemap problem, we removed them and its still missing sky for everyone

 

[DisruptedHunter]

The sky isn't working for people on my server, told them to restart tf2 and try joining a different server then back..Not working. This is what players are getting spammed with in console in the map

AL : CMaterial:recacheVars: error loading vmt file for skybox/sky_goldrush_01up (ignore the smiley its : P no space)

 

[Tumby]

What exactly are the things you are packing? It kinda sounds like you are trying to replace the goldrush skybox texture.
Also, shouldn't it be skybox/sky_goldrush_01_UP?

 

[DisruptedHunter]

What exactly are the things you are packing? It kinda sounds like you are trying to replace the goldrush skybox texture.
Also, shouldn't it be skybox/sky_goldrush_01_UP?

I'm packing custom models, materials, and sounds. I'm not trying to replace the goldrush skybox, I'm just using the regular default one. The player on my server copied and pasted it exactly from the error spam he was getting in his console. When I pack it the vmt's for goldrush skybox get automatically added. I've tried using both in and out and still get the same result. I think when I delete the vmt's is when I get errors for the models. This is extremely weird because the first version of the map is fine with the skybox. I only added some minor things and did some optimization. (You can see in the vmf I posted) I get no leaks, really no errors that are uncommon, I've made sure data's aren't very full and that didn't fix anything.