Power

Discussion in 'Map Factory' started by Drexen, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. Drexen

    Drexen L2: Junior Member

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    CP Power

    Author: Andrew 'Drexen' Warrender

    Version: Final

    File Size: 20.4MB

    This is my gravelpit type 3 cp attack/defend map for the ozfortress 'So you think you can map '09' competition.

    http://www.ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=34279


    Final version has been released.

    Download link

    Final version: http://tf2newbs.com/newbs_upload_vault/cp_power_1.zip

    This map started out really badly. Getting the gameplay to work well for less people per team was very hard. I started off with there being no defined pathways to the capture points and people found it very hard to find some of the points.

    When I released alpha 4 i did a total re-jig of the maps layout to hopefuly make the gameplay better. The basic layout was good but the capture points themselves were sometimes too hard to defend or too hard to capture.

    After about a month, I had started detailing and i released alpha 5. All the versions that followed were just more detailing and fine tuning of the gameplay and before long i had released beta 1.

    There wasn't much change between beta 1 and the final, only some moving around of health/ammo packs and more detailing.

    Overall I have learned a lot from this competition, getting the gameplay good was definetly the hardest part but definetly this competition was a lot of fun.


    Thanks again.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2010
  2. absurdistof

    aa absurdistof

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    I don't know a lot about competitive play, but traditionally, tf2 maps are not this open. Usually it is 3 seperate points attached by narrow pathways..
     
  3. Drexen

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    I have already had 2 tests prior to creating this thread, and it seemed to be good for gameplay so far. I hope to have this map up for testing on the gamedays soon.
     
  4. lana

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    It is pretty open. The BLU spawn also appears to dump out in only one point, making it easy to set up a sentry and stop the offense.
     
  5. absurdistof

    aa absurdistof

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    Fair enough then :)
     
  6. Drexen

    Drexen L2: Junior Member

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    Also Nerdboy and absurdistof, please don't comment on the map so quick with what I should change, when you haven't even played the map yet :).

    Thanks
     
  7. lana

    aa lana Currently On: ?????

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    Here are a few of my ideas:

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    Red = At the start, BLU is trapped in their spawn and funneled into a death trap. Add these corridors so that they can get out alive.
    Green = Additionally, a few walls or barriers here to give players some cover.
    Blue = Near to the end, when the pressure is on C, RED is forced into the point (I assume.) These corridors will allow them to flank BLU.
    Brown = Like Green, but for RED's spawn.
     
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  8. Drexen

    Drexen L2: Junior Member

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    Thanks for that

    PS. yey L2: Member now
     
  9. Omnomnick

    Omnomnick L6: Sharp Member

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    Looks too open and abit too small for a 3 control point attack/defend map. Maps like Gravel Pit are huge - each control point needs its own large area for combat etc. I would say add more routes from spawns to points and make the overall areas around the CPs slightly bigger.
     
  10. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Well he said it was for competitive play so this makes sense.

    I was gonna say this is open yet there is sufficient cover to even things out for most classes. It looks fun for pyro which is always a plus as this is often an ignored class in terms of layout design.

    One concern is that it looks incredibly scout friendly. Scouts are a favoured class in comp play, but things may tip in favour of the scouts in most combat situations. Especially with the control points being so close to each other.
     
  11. nik

    nik L12: Fabulous Member

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    the roof supports in screenshot 2: how did you make these, unless they're a stock prop (then im an idiot)
     
  12. The Political Gamer

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    The props in pics 1 and 5 look at bit out for place, but its not detailed yet so they could work later down the line.
     
  13. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    They're a stock prop. I think in the Trainyard folder.
     
  14. jpr

    aa jpr

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    Open maps =/= bad maps, if you do it right
     
  15. Drexen

    Drexen L2: Junior Member

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    This map is not for competitive play, this is a competition map, for the ozfortress 'so you think you can map '09' competition.
     
  16. Drexen

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    I will be changing the map a bit to have the combat concentrated more around attacking and defending the caps. I do think that the map is a bit too open and yes, when i was having the 2 tests i did notice that pyros and scouts were quite annoying sometimes because they were very overpowered.

    Thanks to everyone so far for the comments.:)
     
  17. Drexen

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    Alpha 2 is out! Please take a look around.
     
  18. lana

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    The spawn doors should be moved up so that teams can get out without getting mowed down. I'd also recommend changing the tunnels at B so that snipers can't shoot straight through them, and fixing up the respawn times so that they're similar. B was never captured during gameday.
     
  19. Drexen

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    Alpha 3 is out!

    And "EDIT: up for fridays Gameday!"
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2009
  20. Drexen

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    Here is my idea for the change in gameplay for alpha 4

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    Hopefuly it will solve the problem.


    Edit: I'm still working on point B
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2009