pl_cliffedge suggestions about changes and fixes

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by basilhs333, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. basilhs333

    basilhs333 L9: Fashionable Member

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    Currently i am very focused on my maps and especially pl_cliffedge which is a map that i want to improve and make it one of the best out there, this is where i need your help.Recently i added the last version of the map (b6) into playtesting a lot of times to collect as much feedback as i possibly can and i collected a lot but a lot.
    The thing is some people complain sometimes about the gameplay or a part of a map which is understandable and this is the part i want to reach. I want everyone who played my map to tell me down in the comments what he thinks needs to be changed (not redone though just changed a bit).
    Hopefully by doing this i would have a lot of suggestions and i can improve the map a lot more to make it more enjoyable for everyone to play and have a good time in general.
    Lastly i want to thank everyone who helped me so far with his feedback etc.
     
  2. Werewolf

    aa Werewolf Probably not a real Werewolf

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    You already have a thread for your map where people have already given you feedback. Why create a new thread?
     
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  3. basilhs333

    basilhs333 L9: Fashionable Member

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    i made a thread asking about the long compile time nothing more nothing less.
     
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  4. Werewolf

    aa Werewolf Probably not a real Werewolf

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    No, you make no mention of compile times in this thread. This is you asking for more feedback on your map, which I'm not saying you can't have.

    I was questioning why you created a new thread to ask for feedback when you already have a thread where people can (and already have) give(n) feedback.
     
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  5. basilhs333

    basilhs333 L9: Fashionable Member

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    thats weird i am 100% sure i didnt make a thread asking for this subject if i did i am sorry about redoing it.
     
  6. MaartenS11

    MaartenS11 L2: Junior Member

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    Each map has its own thread where people can submit feedback and talk about the map and give suggestions and download the map. What werewolf means is that you now made a second thread where you can give feedback while you already have one.
     
  7. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

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    Remake the map and don't use 1hu grid
     
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  8. basilhs333

    basilhs333 L9: Fashionable Member

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    yeap it's so easy to redo an entire map from scratch because its not 8hu grid or something. can i ask why is that such a big of a problem?
    yes i can cause later some problems with detailing etc. but i dont have any problems yet and i dont use it all the time so
     
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  9. killohurtz

    aa killohurtz Distinction in Applied Carving

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    The main reasons to stick to a larger grid size have to do with optimization. For example, if you have a brush in a wall or floor misaligned by 1 unit, or a tiny gap between them, that's an extra visleaf created. If some geometry is slightly offset from the 1024 unit grid (brown lines), then the automatic visleaf cuts at those grid lines might create more unnecessary leafs. Here is an example of that in your map:

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    In the same room, there's a 1u gap between the north wall and the ceiling.
    A small hole in a corner creates an extra leaf.
    Another gap.
    Thin visleafs across the ground because of a small step.

    This is only a small fraction of the problems with your brushwork. Not only will some of these impact performance by allowing hidden brush faces to be drawn, they will drastically increase your compile time too. Using a larger grid size makes it much harder to create sloppy brushwork by accident, helping you avoid most of these issues in the first place.

    Also, please func_detail this mess.
    The compiler will thank you.
     
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  10. Messing Around

    Messing Around L6: Sharp Member

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    i use 1hu grid just because i can't stand odd numbers (like 32, 64, 96, 128, ...)

    i prefer brushes with even numbers (100, 200, 300,...)

    is it bad? Should i fight my OCD?
     
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  11. Freyja

    aa Freyja ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    32, 64, etc are powers of two and are "even" numbers for the computer. Once you use it for a while they will be even to you too, and 100,200 will seem wrong to you
     
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  12. henke37

    aa henke37

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    They are even numbers as per the definition math uses.
     
  13. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

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    Actually you could set grid to 10, 20, 40 but it is not recommended because most (door) props are made fore 16hu and powers of 2 is standard