pipeline, sawmill and nucleus discussion

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by laghlagh, May 22, 2009.

  1. laghlagh

    laghlagh L6: Sharp Member

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    So, as a mapper community, what are your thoughts on the three new maps?
    I'm personally in love with them. Sawmill is so detailed and filled with new stuff. Those sawblades work great too. It's just postcard-pretty, and is really fun playing too. I haven't got to play the others so much yet, but I like the slick modern architecture on nucleus, in addition to, of course, the doomsday-device.

    So what are your thoughts on the new maps? Any favourites, any you can't stand?
     
  2. MangyCarface

    aa MangyCarface Mapper

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    I'm actually pretty depressed.
    Sawmill accomplished everything I wanted with yukon, only in a better fashion.
    Seriously bummed : /
     
  3. uma plata

    uma plata L6: Sharp Member

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    First impression: I'm underwhelmed by Pipeline. Maybe it'll grow on me in time. The last stage is just a shooting gallery for snipers. You basically have to suicide over and over to get the cart to move. Kinda expected something more elegant from Valve. I like the look and atmosphere, though

    Nucleus and Sawmill both kick ass though. Like, seriously kick ass. Both are very fun maps, and look incredible
     
  4. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    Sawmill is first Valve map to "WOW" me. aesthetically it is amazing.
    Egypt is the first community map to wow me.

    Seriously though..

    I ran through sawmill and was like "shit.. i cant top this, might as well stop.
     
  5. The Political Gamer

    aa The Political Gamer

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    Could someone decompile sawmill so I canl steal the saws for my map. :p
     
  6. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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  7. Tekku

    aa Tekku

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    In Pipeline there are many props which aren't player clipped, I could get inside tires and hide there also you can get stuck in 3rd stage door..
    Here..

    [​IMG]

    I didn't play sawmill yet, but i didn't like nucleus
     
  8. Psyphil

    Psyphil L3: Member

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    personally I just love both the layout and detailing of nucleous and sawmill. They are just perfect, I especially like the waterfall. There's one thing though, can't figure out why you shoudn't be able to walk into the enemy spawn? I mean it's an arena..

    About payload race, I don't like the playstyle at all! It's.... not fun and really hard to amke a good map out of. Would be much happier if they would have made a "tug-o-war" map (Icarus pl_waste).
     
  9. laghlagh

    laghlagh L6: Sharp Member

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    I don't think engies can build there either, probably to avoid engies camping in the spawnhouse as in ravine.
     
  10. Rotab

    Rotab L1: Registered

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    Pipeline is the first night-time valve-map? :eek:
     
  11. jpr

    aa jpr

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    Hehe, my reaction was the opposite. When I first played on it, I swore to make a better looking map someday.
     
  12. Vigilante212

    Vigilante212 L7: Fancy Member

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    Sawmill was fun and looked great, the best part was the blades and suiciding against them at the end of the round lol. Havent played nucleus yet, but if its anything near as fun as sawmill i might change my mind about arena maps.

    Pipeline sucks. I mean seriously once you win the first round your pretty much guaranteed to win unless your team is terrible. On the last stage its almost impossible to get the cart up to the top without being picked off by snipers.
     
  13. HoundDawg

    HoundDawg L1: Registered

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    I'm sure Valve will be updating all of those maps. Especially sawmill. First impressions of Sawmill are just awesome. But, once you get past the honeymoon stage, you start noticing the flaws. Most of it small details that can be easily fixed, others (especially looking at the decompiled map) are just sloppy, which are causing a lot of the issues players are experiencing.

    It'll still be a remarkable map to gain inspiration from though. They just need to iron out the kinks and bring it to a more professional level, which we had expected upon release.
     
  14. Walliard

    Walliard L1: Registered

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    I've found the opposite to be true; it's too easy to lose the advantage by rolling back on the first hill. Also, the second round is a nightmare thanks to that long narrow tunnel and the tracks going right past the enemy spawn.
     
  15. Icarus

    aa Icarus

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    Pipeline has bizarre spawn times!

    Column 1 Column 2
    Condition Respawn Waves
    Rounds 1 & 2 8 Seconds
    If RED wins round 2 5 Seconds
    If BLU wins round 2 6 Seconds
     
  16. Shmitz

    aa Shmitz Old Hat

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    As an engy, I snuck a level 1 sentry onto the opposite team's roof on the last stage, such that it had a view of both the ramp and the sniper deck.

    At level 1, unattended, it killed about 10 people before it died.
     
  17. Rotab

    Rotab L1: Registered

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    TODO: Set Name @ Sawmill =D
     
  18. ChronoTriggerFan

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    One thing I have to complain about pipeline is the horrible placement of spawn exits. The end cap is farther ahead of the exits in all 3 stages. When the other teams payload crosses over, not only are you killed right out of spawn, but have no chance of winning because of lack of access to the cart.

    The 3rd stage is also a mess. Exits out of spawn are clumsy, and I felt I really never had a chance to do anything other than run helplessly to the cart, lord knowing where my team was. Not to mention that the exits out of spawn are horrible, leading to either a building edge, having to jump off into the water to get to the cart, or go to the bottom, just to be pushed off the walkway inevitably, just getting to the cart.
     
  19. Cerious

    Cerious L7: Fancy Member

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    When my friend switched his map to Nucleus, everyone was simply amazed by it. It's really brilliant; the point as a block to viewing from spawn to spawn, while everything else in the map is aesthetically amazing.

    I can't get my tree models to show up in Sawmill though ;_; help plz?
     
  20. TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

    TheDarkerSideofYourShadow L10: Glamorous Member

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    Some of the props in sawmill look interesting, and I've got to go through and see which ones I can use for ghost town. However, first thing I noticed about sawmill...load up the map and then open the console...so much red! /heavy.