I'm always fascinated by new map types in tf2 that go beyond the standard CTF and CP maps. Things like Murderball, Gas Kaboom, Maps that have both CTF and CP elements in them, these all seem really cool to me. What are some maps you've played with strange win conditions, like you have to do weird things to win? Does anyone have any ideas for new map types that they'd like to make? I played a map over the weekend that was basically a CTF map, but the intel was encased in a glass box that you had to damage to open, alot of damage... Then once you got the intel, you and your whole team had some weird visual effect almost making it look like you were drunk, it was really weird, but alot of fun.