Need help with mapping

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by Crucket, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. Crucket

    Crucket L1: Registered

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    Good day everyone!

    I am looking to get into the world of making TF2 maps, I have watched all of Crash's tutorial videos, but I really want to start making my first map, and I would apperciate your support on my questions which are:

    -The most important is: Where can I find basic tutorials about design and how to plan my maps, I know that this question has been probably asked, but could anyone please give me the link?

    -Can you please give me general tips of what I should/shouldn't do?This question is might be answered as well, I would apperciate the link(s).

    -I have some concepts already and I'm curious about if they are good or not:

    • cp_underwashed: BLU's plan of building a huge research facility has been interrupted by mother nature herself: Due to recent rains the ground-water's level has seriously risen,and has flooded the construction from below, and stopped the progress, RED has grabbed the opportunity to strike at BLU while they are weak, however the lab's main structure is already done, and it contains valuable intelligence for RED.

    • ctf/koth/cp egghead the concept is really really in development (in my head-quarters), but it would be a closed lab area where BLU and RED are fighting for each others...lab? (really alpha)
    I have a lot of questions still, I will post these below if they got into my mind!
    I apperciate every bit of support and comment, and the links to tutorials.

    Thanks you for reading and have a nice hammertime!
     
  2. Izotope

    aa Izotope Never releases maps

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    Don't use Carve tool.
    ever.
     
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  3. Bull

    Bull L4: Comfortable Member

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    Well if you're completely new to Hammer, I suggest this help guide made by Valve themselves. Keep in mind that TF2's maps are a bit larger scaled than HL2 maps due to the ability to rocket- / stickyjump so keep that in mind. Aside from that, it's a great tutorial series to start your adventure off with! They also have a section specific to TF2, so you can read up on that as well. Keep in mind, with the Ultimate Mapping Resource Pack, you don't have to build the gamemodes from scratch.

    If you're more familiar with Hammer, mapping for TF2 is just a lot of trial and error. You'll have to get your map playtested, a lot. Over here on TF2maps we host a gameday every week(?) I think. It's a first come, first served principe.

    Finally, I assume Crash said it in his videos as well, but be sure to download the Ultimate Mapping Resource Pack by A Boojum Snark. Almost all of the mappers on here use it and it saves you a lot of time building the gamemodes from scratch or looking for a certain prop.

    And indeed, never use the Carve tool. It makes a huge mess of your map.

    Your concepts sound promising. :) Can't wait to see what you put out!
     
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  4. Crucket

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    Thanks Paul, I will check them out!
     
  5. Crucket

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    Got it!Thanks for the help!
     
  6. tyler

    aa tyler snail prince, master of a ruined tower

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    It's a good idea to learn how the logic works before using the prefabs including in the ABS pack. If something breaks or you need to make changes, and all you've ever done is copy and paste, you won't learn anything.

    Grazr wrote some great starter guides (you can see the others in his signature). You can also check the links in my signature--a couple of them are aimed at new people, a couple are aimed at more experienced people. And generally you want to be digging through the Tutorials forum or searching through it for things.

    The Valve dev wiki is really good, too. And I believe soon we'll have a dedicated Tutorials section...?
     
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  7. Crucket

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    Thanks mate,I'm impressed by all that help I'm getting! :D
     
  8. killohurtz

    aa killohurtz Distinction in Applied Carving

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  9. Crucket

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    I have done it on pl_thundermountain and I'm amazed and got some great ideas!Thank you!
     
  10. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

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    I have done all my planning to just normal squared paper. Feel free to use any method you ever want; there is no wrong way to plan a map!

    What you should do is think about official maps and how things are done in those maps. That doesnt mean that you have to copy everything but usually bad ideas just never get published.
     
  11. Crucket

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    Thanks Hyperion,your post has given me quite a confidence, I will check both Valve and your maps! :)
     
  12. Zed

    aa Zed Certified Most Crunk™

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    Don't make a map where RED attacks and BLU defends. It's not an interesting gimmick and literally all it does is confuse players.
     
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  13. Narpas

    aa Narpas Failing at Scaling

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    This thread has links to most the good guides on this site, as well as others not on this site.
     
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  14. Crucket

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    It was a concept earlyer because I was afriad that the lab theme would not be the best for RED, but then I thought of mountainlab and then said OK, let's stick to the original, however thank you so much for helping me out.
     
  15. Crucket

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    Wow, that's what I've been looking for in case of resources,thank you!