Mappers vs Machines Gameday - Everyday!

[Freyja]

Not to be rude or anything, but why is there a map that is constantly being preferred to be tested?

Which map is that? I see a large variety of maps played over the last few days http://73.233.15.145/Server/SourceTV/

I feel you're talking about my map, Teien, because you're not the first one. In general, people who take the initiative to seek out tests and people to test with will get their map tested more than someone just signing up to gameday.
I talk to hydrogen daily, I ask him to test my map every time I put out a new version, and I work on that new version as soon as the test ends. I ask the chatroom every day to come test my (and other) maps too.

That's not something only I have the privilege of doing. The server is public and there are many admins of it.

 

[Benoist3012]

Not to be rude or anything, but why is there a map that is constantly being preferred to be tested?

I hope you realize what you said, if that's true, we wouldn't be running a contest right now.
Are you implying we are rejecting maps from being tested, and instead test a specific one? It's like destroying the purpose of that contest.
That's not our fault that we don't get many test requests, and @Freyja has the right to submit her map in every gameday tests, and as far I know we haven't rejected maps because we had too much to test.

See it like this:

Spoiler

The exemple might be a bit odd, but that's pretty much it.

Weekend #1
"We are running game tests! We take 10 maps, who's in?"
"Me! Me! Me!"
@Freyja "Me!"
Weekend #2
"We are running game tests! We take 10 maps, who's in?"
"Me! Me!"
@Freyja "Me!"
Weekend #3
"We are running game tests! We take 10 maps, who's in?"
@Freyja "Me!"

Moral: Freyja takes every chances to get her map tested. And thus people think we reject other maps...

Ps: Also here a piece of advice, if what you said "is true", come with solid evidences next time.

 

[Hydrogen]

We'll do a better job with cycling around the maps tomorrow and Sunday (during the gameday time mentioned on the OP).

If you're available at those hours make sure to stop by!'

EDIT: Want to add a couple of things:

1. Feel free to nag us on the MvM server steam group chat if you are free and want to run your map (if we didn't do so already). Depending on the difficulty of the mission and availability of people, we can probably run a test immediately after you ask. The server group chat is rather empty and I sit in it all the time.

2. When mentioning times, it helps to attach a time zone to it. "Morning" or "5 PM" has no meaning to me, since 5 PM on Europe is different from 5 PM in East Coast which is way different from 5 PM in Australia. If you don't specify the time zone we'll assume it's Eastern time (ET).

 

[Mikroscopic]

Map name: mvm_kelly_a3
Map Download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/kelly.3982/
Steam profile link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198066319338/
Mission to be tested: mvm_kelly_a3.pop
Preferred day: Saturday evening

 

[Necrσ]

Map name: mvm_affinity_a3
Map Download Link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/affinity.4069/
Steam Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tkcnecropsy
Mission to be tested: mvm_affinity_a3.pop
Notes: Looking for lots of feedback on mission since im still getting a feel for how it all works. Also feedback on scale/size of map and other general map feedback

 

[Erk]

Map name: mvm_estate_a6a
Map Download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_estate.3966/download?version=8823
Steam Profile link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198101099843/

 

[Hydrogen]

From now on (and I also did this for the past few posts) I'll rate "agree" on your post if we have tested your map recently. I think that's a better way of conveying to everyone that your map was tested. You can go find the demo file and feedback data on the server for your map.

 

[Da Spud Lord]

Map name: mvm_cargoship_a4
Map Download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/cargoship-mvm.4004/download?version=8829
Steam profile link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198167280575/
Mission to be tested: Oceanic Onslaught

 

[zahndah]

map name: mvm_fiori_a5
map download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_fiori.3964/download?version=8849
steam profile links: http://steamcommunity.com/id/leafslayer , http://steamcommunity.com/id/dasnvi
(there is only 1 popfile with it, use that one please )

 

[Fillmore]

Map name: mvm_affinity_a3
Map Download Link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/affinity.4069/
Steam Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tkcnecropsy
Mission to be tested: mvm_affinity_a3.pop
Notes: Looking for lots of feedback on mission since im still getting a feel for how it all works. Also feedback on scale/size of map and other general map feedback

Running this map gives me the following errors on the console:

Dead end link: boss_path_17
The nav mesh needs a full nav_analyze
TFBotSpawner: need to specify ItemName in ItemAttributes.
TFBotSpawner: need to specify ItemName in ItemAttributes.

A bit of silly goofs, the Tank error doesn't really affect anything and that ItemName thing explains itself on the error well enough that I don't need to say anything about it.
The nav mesh needing a full nav_analyze, however, is a whole different story.
You've messed with the mesh at some point (deleted some of it, used nav_split or nav_merge in there) and that clears the visibility data inbued in the mesh. In simpler terms: Mess with the mesh and the bots all go effectively blind, only firing at enemies at are practically in their face or in really bright/open areas. Or they start acting like they're drunk.

If you mess with the mesh, use nav_analyze so you don't have drunk bots when playtests are a thing (it kinda fucks up the test if bots are drunk)

 

[Mikroscopic]

Map name: mvm_kelly_a4
Map Download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/kelly.3982/
Steam profile link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198066319338/
Mission to be tested: mvm_kelly_a4_normal.pop, mvm_kelly_a4_expert.pop
Preferred day: Either Saturday or Sunday is good this weekend.

 

[Erk]

Map name: mvm_estate_a7
Map Download link: https://tf2maps.net/threads/mvm_estate.32414/
Steam Profile Link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198101099843
Mission to be tested: There's only one that can be.
Preferred day: Whatever you'd like, and I'll take any form of feedback.
Notes: Still working on a custom pop file and think it's probably the biggest thing I have to work on. Sorry in advance.

 

[Hydrogen]

As some of you may have noticed, the whole "Every Weekend" thing went out the window and has become Every Day instead (including weekdays).

There are 2 (sometimes 3) gamedays that run on any given day:

• The morning shift @ 9 AM ET (morning USA, afternoon EU, nighttime AU) - preference is given to EU mappers
• The afternoon shift @ 3 PM ET (afternoon USA, nighttime EU) - this is only a thing if we fall behind in map testing
• The night shift @ 10 PM ET (nighttime USA, morning AU) - preference is given to USA/AU mappers

All given times are accurate to within +/- 30 minutes.

We'll still continue the same rules for submitting maps for testing. I do my best to check the MvM section daily and internally add maps to the list of maps to run. As always, check the Source TV website to see if your map has been played recently.

We try to cover 2 maps per gameday, although depending on day-to-day circumstances this number can easily be between 0-3 (i.e. some days we won't run any MvM, on others we may cram 3 maps in a single sitting).

In all gamedays (except for the night shift), we ask the TF2Maps group chat for people to join us for testing and decide on the agenda of maps to test (e.g. mappers who join us for the gamedays will be given highest priority on the maps to be tested for that gameday - we will almost-always test the map of a mapper who is in the server).

If you don't want to miss out on the gamedays or want your map to be tested ASAP (many people had their maps tested within 24 hours of pushing a new update), join the group chat (either the TF2Maps one or the MvM server one) around those posted times and wait for a game to be announced. As we are now halfway to the deadline, take advantage of the frequent gamedays to get feedback for your map.

 

[Asd417]

map name: mvm_Celnium
map download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_celnium.4113/
steam profile links: http://steamcommunity.com/id/417hahahaha/
(there is only 1 popfile with it, use that one please )
Also, there are only 4 waves but I would like thorough feedback on those. (More than one play through if possible? even if we have to cut the playthrough mid-wave?)
Thanks

 

[Asd417]

Please redownload this map if you already did. It includes an important fix

 

[zahndah]

map name: mvm_fiori_a7a
map download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_fiori.3964/download?version=8962
steam profile links: http://steamcommunity.com/id/leafslayer , http://steamcommunity.com/id/dasnvi
popfile: mvm_fiori_a7a.pop

 

[Asd417]

map name: mvm_ripe_a2
map download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_ripe.4113/
steam profile page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/417hahahaha/
one pop file from decoy. (advanced)

 

[Asd417]

My map was updated to a3 which includes vital fixes. Please redownload. Thanks

 

[Sayuyu]

Map name: mvm_canal_a1
Map download link: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mvm_canal.4118/
Steam Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/shinarusayuno/
Pop File: Pretty much just one of the Rottenburg popfiles for testing purposes.

 

[Asd417]

I cant find my map on http://73.233.15.145/Server/SourceTV/
No feedback nor demo record