Looking for a Version of Dustbowl

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  1. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    I know you dont encourage editing of Valve maps but I am looking for a night version of Dustbowl. Has anyone seen one, im sure someone has edited the map to night after Valve released the source?
     
  2. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    isn't it just dustbowl with a night sky?..

    FPSB has those "kind" of maps.
     
  3. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    No, the lighting isnt correct. I can change the sky with sv_skyname but the lighting isnt touched. Believe it or not, night maps do take some work.
     
  4. NovaSilisko

    aa NovaSilisko L42: Life, the Universe and Everything

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    Not really. It's just replacing the skyname and replacing light entities. It's that lack of work which makes them be shunned here. You want a night version of dustbowl...you best be goin' on your way, partner.
     
  5. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    I dont think there is one, but perhaps I can change the light entities with stripper?
     
  6. HeaH

    HeaH L8: Fancy Shmancy Member

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  7. jpr

    aa jpr

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    lol
     
  8. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    Not very helpful... You can create a random map that will never be played on a server or create a night map that may actually get played.
     
  9. Artesia

    Artesia L6: Sharp Member

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    but you're not creating a map, you're changing a few numbers on light entities. So technically we are creating maps that are played on more servers than any you've created, because valve created dustbowl not you, you can make all the changes you want, valve still gets 100% of the credit.
     
  10. DontWannaName

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    It might be changing a few numbers but its a big enough change that players will enjoy a different dustbowl. I would do it myself but I want it done right or with stripper if its possible to do it with stripper.
     
  11. Artesia

    Artesia L6: Sharp Member

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    its not big enough that you would, or should get any credit for the map... changing 0.001% of the map still leaves valve with 99.999% which is damn near 100%, so much so that it might as well be 100%.

    It isn't even a "different" dustbowl! It is balanced Exactly the same! I could screw with the color settings on my monitor, it doesn't make granary any better.

    The reason people could even remotely enjoy it is they like dustbowl, and it saves them from turning their monitor brightness down.

    My suggestion to anyone who thinks this is a good idea: Move your monitor in front of a window, open the blinds, and play after sundown.

    Things like this are several things.

    1- a waste of a "potential mapper's" time. (potential mapper as this isn't really mapping)
    2- a waste of Hard drive space. Use that space for unique maps, even if you have a big hard drive, why clutter it with different colors of all the maps (essentially). You don't need a night version, sunset version, underwater version, upside down version, orange version, becker version (all wall textures replaced with pictures of Ted Danson), and any other version you can think of, for the map Dustbowl, or any other stock map you can think of.
    3- A waste of a server... Really, there's already tons of servers running dustbowl, do we need to start trying to clog servers with night dustbowl, making us wait and download it just to realize its the same map, but with different colors? I personally think there should be a better filter system on steam so I don't have to scroll past maps running crap like this.

    Anyways, the only way I would ever support something like this is... 1-if it was only used for practice (delete all the lights and light the level from scratch for practice) and 2- it were NEVER released.


    It's like taking a print of the Mona Lisa, painting lipstick on her (or him, very androgynous) and proclaiming you have completed a great work of art.

    "There's a sucker born every minute." P. T. Barnum
     
  12. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    I wasnt asking for credit, I dont know how many people enjoy playing dustbowl all the time since its their favorite map but the people that do get bored with the ambiance of the map. Making it nighttime may be a small change but its something that people would enjoy as its the same map but at night.
     
  13. Artesia

    Artesia L6: Sharp Member

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    if they get bored with the ambiance I would suggest that they open themselves up to try other maps, as they obviously only play dustbowl.

    It must be a sad sad existence indeed...:facepalm:
     
  14. jpr

    aa jpr

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    Please get out now.
    You don't come to tf2maps to say that night edits of valve maps are better than custom maps.
     
  15. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    Dont have to get your internet ego in a bunch. Im not new here, im just asking people that may know if there is a night version out there. I didnt say they were better but some customs can be crap.
     
  16. Artesia

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  17. DontWannaName

    DontWannaName L3: Member

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    I wouldnt be here if that came up with something but it didnt and now im here asking the mapping community if a map exists.
     
  18. Artesia

    Artesia L6: Sharp Member

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    I don't know how you're not getting this...

    This is the wrong community to ask, we don't deal in that kind of swill.

    You best head to fpsbanana.com or facepunch.com or some place that has people who aren't interested in authentic mapping, and enjoy orange maps, surf maps, or hacked valve maps.
     
  19. zpqrei

    aa zpqrei Theme Changer Extraordinaire

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    Turning into a flame-thread. If you want to appeal, PM me.

    ~Closed~
     
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