lil' help? trying to mirror my map

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by spot_the_spy, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. spot_the_spy

    spot_the_spy L1: Registered

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    I was working on my first map for actual play and I made One side (red) since it is going to be a symmetrical CTF map, I was planning to copy and paste it and flip it and then change everything to be blue oriented.

    only now i cant copy and paste it, and if i clone it by holding shift i works but i cant manipulate any entities on the copied side, and after i save it and reload that side is gone.

    any tips or am i screwed?, thanks.

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  2. What Is Schwa

    What Is Schwa L6: Sharp Member

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    Just a guess, but are you using the cordon tool? You might be copying stuff outside the cordon box and that is why it isn't visible anymore.
     
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  3. spot_the_spy

    spot_the_spy L1: Registered

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    It looks kind of janky because this is still early, and I still haven't added a 3d skybox.
     
  4. Sgt Frag

    Sgt Frag L14: Epic Member

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    Schwa is probably right.

    Also, I always copy, then paste it in a new map, then mirror. Nothing gets screwed up in the original that way. It's also easier to select and replace textures. Then copy that and put in old map.
     
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  5. spot_the_spy

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    sorry, what's the cordon box?
     
  6. spot_the_spy

    spot_the_spy L1: Registered

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    actually I still need help, i copy the map and paste it into a new map and everything is cool, but after i save it and load it back up only the stuff i edited is there, all the copied stuff is just gone, any help?

    edit: I get this error after i save the copied map

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  7. Sgt Frag

    Sgt Frag L14: Epic Member

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    Are you just trying to paste into hammer, or are you hitting Cntrl-M to get a fresh map to come up firsT?

    I haven't seen that error
     
  8. tyler

    aa tyler snail prince, master of a ruined tower

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  9. spot_the_spy

    spot_the_spy L1: Registered

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    nope I'm pasting the map into a new one and if i save it and try to reload it i get that error.


    should i just take my lumps, and just make the second fort from scratch and make it symmetrical gameplay wise, and asymmetrical art wise like 2 fort?

    I'm heading to washington, valve needs to know about this, your right. :p
     
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  10. tyler

    aa tyler snail prince, master of a ruined tower

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    In all seriousness though I don't know what's wrong here. I've never seen this or had this issue, and I made a fair number of bad symmetrical KOTH maps. I wish I could help.
     
  11. spot_the_spy

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    funky
     
  12. Mr. Happy

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    You could try doing it one visgroup at a time. Select the world geometry visgroup (mark button), copy that over, then the tool brushes, copy that over, etc. Using Paste Special you can get them to paste to the same coordinates as they started at so everything still lines up.

    As for why it's happening, well, Hammer is quite buggy.
     
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