L4D2's "realism mode" needs to be renamed, badly.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Numerous, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. Numerous

    Numerous L4: Comfortable Member

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    Has anyone here noticed that in *realism mode* you can be incapacitated, then slowly die through a process referred to as "bleeding out" (ie losing all your blood, or a bunch of it) and then be suddenly revived by a quick jolt in about 5 seconds, with no noticeable short-term effects?

    I know they added it for an extra challenge, but maybe they should rethink the naming. Call it "hardcore mode" or something, anything but "realism mode".
     
  2. absurdistof

    aa absurdistof

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    Have you also noticed that shooting any special infected or survivor in the leg doesn't cause them to limp? or cripple in pain?

    You know what also gets me? The whole zombie thing. It's like duh ce n'est pas possible!

    The things people do to contort names disgust me. Honestly. 100% agree.

    EDIT: Also, I hate how you don't hunch down when you cough, or how I can't do parkour over windows, or how I cant hit infected with my weapon as if it was a golf club, or how I can't destroy parts of the environment, or how boomers don't just ooze out liquid, or how pipebombs don't even have a ringtone or something, or how it's only beer bottles for molotovs, when everyone knows that vodka works best, or how the sense of smell isn't accurately conveyed, or how you never see popped tires, or how there aren't any ticks in the grass, or how players don't have to deal with hydration.

    It's like they should call it a game or something, not realism!
     
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  3. YM

    aa YM LVL100 YM

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    May I directly you to www.L4Dmaps.net ?

    Alternatively, everything absurdistof said works just fine.
     
  4. Tapp

    Tapp L10: Glamorous Member

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    Umm... teamwork mode? That's pretty much what the gameplay side of it is...
     
  5. Shmitz

    aa Shmitz Old Hat

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    You know what would be the most boring game in the world?


    A realistic one.
     
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  6. Numerous

    Numerous L4: Comfortable Member

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    You're missing the point. I'm not saying it should be made more realistic (any good game designer will know you should be effectively ignoring reality, and make good gameplay mechanics instead), I'm just saying it shouldn't be referred to as "realism" mode. Because it sure as hell aint realistic. Besides, by now the survivors would've gotten plenty of other diseases that they weren't immune to, or a mutated strain of the disease that they weren't immune to, due to exchange of fluids (when they're attacked, not what you're thinking right now) with zombies.

    And sure, direct me to L4Dmaps, its not like this is the OFFTOPIC FORUM. I don't see how BP's oil spill is any more relevant.
     
  7. Acumen

    aa Acumen Annoyer

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    well, you just want people to agree with your setinstone opinion, so there's not too much room for discussion.
    basically it's just a single word/expression that you disagree with, so i don't know how we could come to terms in here :)
     
  8. Numerous

    Numerous L4: Comfortable Member

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    To be honest, I saw something blatantly defying well-known rules of reality (ie "an electric shock doesn't magically give you 20L of blood) and made a "should" statement about it which as far as I can see, has no grounds for disagreement. Ideally, valve should somehow be linked to this thread, and all decide on the spot that I'm right, and change the name immediately.

    Of course, that's thoroughly idealistic, realistically there's all sorts of problems with social inertia and whatnot, and effort that someone would have to put in to change it would result in a "CBF factor", but the point is in theory the name is ludicrous for the actual scenario (because valve said themselves that "realism mode" is for people who want extra challenge in working as a team beyond just upping the difficulty, and that sounds awfully suspiciously like a hardcore mode or something similar), and anyone who disagrees is pretty much missing the point.

    So just to recap and to simplify it:

    1.The main point of the mode isn't actually to make it realistic, it's to enforce more teamwork, basically.

    2.It isn't particularly realistic anyways, as indicated in the first post.

    3.It is, however, more realistic than the normal mode, although that would make it "more realistic" mode, rather than "realism mode".

    4. A name's primary purpose (for a gameplay mode, at least) tends to be to convey the function of whatever the mode actually does, what sort of purpose you would actually use it for, and/or what makes it different, to some extent.

    5.Due to points 1, 2, and 3, I conclude there are much more appropriate names in terms of point 5.

    Not too much room for discussion? You can make a discussion of anything, just take a look at the Flat Earth Society.

    Also, yes I am aware my arguments are written fairly messily.
     
  9. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    I dunno... a lot of weird people like to play simulators a lot. Not that i could really cite a sim and be told that X factor isn't real enough in it.
     
  10. Lancey

    aa Lancey Currently On: ?????

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    "Why isn't my video game realistic enough?"

    How about this: fall damage kills you instantly, bullets kill you instantly, zombies will (randomly) kill you instantly, you don't have a crosshair or a hud, you can't aim for crap, pills will cause kidney failure, adrenaline will just outright kill you after two doses, and you only get one life ever. After you die you're not allowed to play any more.
     
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  11. my_hat_stinks

    my_hat_stinks L1: Registered

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    Sounds fun... What game is this? :rolleyes:
     
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  12. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    I believe there are some FPS games out there where "insane mode" involves entire removal of HUD, including your crosshair and ammo gauge.
     
  13. Trotim

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    Why do you all miss the point? Do you do that on purpose?

    I agree with Numerous. Don't call something realistic when it obviously, for gameplay purpose, can't be and isn't.
     
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  14. Lancey

    aa Lancey Currently On: ?????

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    I always looked at it as shit getting real.
     
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  15. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    they added realistic elements so they named it realism. What is your point? Yes it encourages teamwork, but "teamwork mode" is worse than realism mode. It doesn't tell you anything. At least naming it "realism mode" would explain not having magical outlines.

    "more realistic mode" is a god awful name and no one will want to play it. They made it as realistic as possible while keeping the gameplay fun.
     
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  16. FaTony

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    Oh come on, reality shows have great audience. People just watch other people do realistic things.
     
  17. Shmitz

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    You know what are the most boring shows in the world?


    Reality shows.
     
  18. Lancey

    aa Lancey Currently On: ?????

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    Yes... realistic things...
     
  19. TheBladeRoden

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    Suspension of Disbelief Mode
     
  20. Nineaxis

    aa Nineaxis Quack Doctor

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    You mean Surreality shows?