Just the right lighting...

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by absurdistof, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. absurdistof

    aa absurdistof

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    So, in an effort to try and guide players through my awesome arena map that you should definately check out and comment on, I figured I could try and use lighting to my advantage. Because players act like flies.
    Here's the question: what would be a good light setting, that hasn't been overused, that is dark enough so that a normal (not light_env) light would show up clearly on?

    An example of an overused light setting would be the 'red sunset' setting, call it whatever you like, that's pretty much red, and dark like sunset. Night is another example that's overused.

    The goal here is to have a dark enough light_env so I can make sideroutes more obvious and appealing without seeming cliche with an overused light setting.
  2. Blue552

    Blue552 L3: Member

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    It's just me but I always think Big Blue and Bright is the best light setting.

    Side Routes could also be displayed with extra detail or even signs and arrows.
  3. StickZer0

    aa StickZer0 💙💙💃💙💙

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    Observe here and here.

    I have a bright light setting, yet your eyes are still drawn to the places I want you to look at.
    In the first picture, there is a light on the wall - a bit odd, but you notice it's brighter there. There's also a truck and a road, both leading you up the staircase. What i'm trying to show here, is it's not just having more light that works, you want to have areas the player is looking at slightly more detailed to draw their eye there, and then lines (in this case the road and the truck) which lead in in a direction. Note how areas you shouldn't look at are dull and plain, and where you should look at has more colour.
    In picture two, there is a lot of shadow coming from the rocks and building. Because of this, the lights inside the building seems considerably brighter and you notice it more. Once again, there are also signs and details which are obvious when you look at them, but when playing you barely notice, but they lead you through the level
  4. UKCS-Alias

    aa UKCS-Alias Mann vs Machine... or... Mapper vs Meta?

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    Another thing to mention is that its often recomended to have a light behind a doorway you can see. Especialy on side routes this gives some contrast showing there is a door even better. It doesnt matter how the lighting in the map is, its allways recomended as the sun often gives a diffirent light style.

    Arrows do work if those gates are a bit hidden but then again, the route probably isnt designed well in the first place if you need arrows for it.

    I usualy try to have a route end up at the large route and directly showing the alternative route. A map where you can see a very good example of this is fastlane. Even the upstairs route is known well (it isnt used alot though for obvious reasons unless you are defending the last point)

    And last, a link to a post that shows some hints about you can detail your map best. Details matter alot. [Guide] Details: how VALVe do it
  5. Tapp

    Tapp L10: Glamorous Member

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    *envies stickzer0's amazing use of sky-shadows*
    Personally I don't see the problem in over-using light settings, after all you over-use the skyboxes. A player's natural curiosity can be used, just set up a series of breadcrumbs. A number of wires leading the player down the route, a large prop that sticks out the doorway, or even something that spews out of the doorway can attract attention and invoke curiosity.
  6. Dr. ROCKZO

    Dr. ROCKZO L8: Fancy Shmancy Member

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    and (lots of) signage never hurt either.