Is a nuclear strike ever justifiable?

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  1. TMP

    aa TMP Abuser of Site Rules

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    I just had an immense fear arise in me, of a nuclear strike. Its something I never want to live through.

    So I had to ask the question to this community.

    Is there ever a case where a nuclear strike is justifiable?

    My personal thought? I don't even want to think about it. I'm terrified of even thinking about it. The use of it on civilians... is terrifying. In a war setting, on the battlefield, a tactical nuke has applications and I don't disagree with that. But a strike on any civilian area... is not justifiable in my books.
     
  2. my_hat_stinks

    my_hat_stinks L1: Registered

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    I'd consider it murder
     
  3. Godslayer57

    Godslayer57 L8: Fancy Shmancy Member

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    "Remember when the platform was sliding into the fire pit and I said 'Goodbye' and you were like 'No way' and then I was all 'We pretended we were going to murder you'? That was great."

    In reality there is no justisify-able way to nuke a populated area of civillians.
     
  4. Freyja

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  5. martijntje

    martijntje L8: Fancy Shmancy Member

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    Justified is merely what people currently find acceptable. With enough brainwashing and propaganda it might be "justified".

    However in the current society and with my current mindset: No way.

    @godslayer57: Love your avatar
     
  6. Bermuda Cake

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    there's always an alternative.
     
  7. FaTony

    FaTony Banned

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    Yeah, why nuclear strike? Give people no hope and watch them suicide!
     
  8. Mr. P. Kiwi

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    Even though big smokey mashrooms are something that are fun to watch... :D
     
  9. WastedMeerkat

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    When a country goes to war, it puts the safety of its citizens at risk. It should be prepared for a nuclear strike if it seems likely to happen. I don't know if it's ever justifiable, but if you're referring to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it was the easiest way to end the war and it was a good opportunity to finally use the nuclear bomb.

    Back then nobody else had any bombs to counter us with, but now they do. If anybody were to fire a bomb, then the whole world would suddenly be in a Mexican standoff. Nobody's going to fire a bomb for that very reason. I say you shouldn't worry about it.
     
  10. Okrag

    aa Okrag Wall Staples

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    Nuclear Weapons are a Mexican standoff. It is all about deterrence and stalemates.
     
  11. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    America doesn't need justification. We are above that (and everyone else).
     
  12. Exist

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    Russia uses nukes to blow up oil spills. -Insert in Russia joke here-
     
  13. Radaka

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    Innocent civilians should never be subject to the horrors of war. If an army forces it on them, that army... should be doomed to suffer for eternity.
     
  14. owly-oop

    aa owly-oop im birb

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    killing innocent people is okay as long as it isn't me

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  16. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Has this got anything to do with the North Korean Standoff?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10748148

    If you're dealing with war over land nuclear weapons are a terribly inaffective weapon as they scar the landscape. But for simply striking an enemy for the sakes of dealing a critical blow it's a scary prospect. Particularly when it comes to terrorism and civilians.
     
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  17. gastrop0d

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    Is war justifiable at all? What difference is it what weapon or scale the violence is on, or the reasons. Murder is murder, and that is insanity.

    Given that, any justification from an insane mindset is meaningless.
     
  18. Terr

    aa Terr Cranky Coder

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    The issue isn't nuclear weapons at all. The actual mechanism is a red-herring.

    The real issue is "innocents" and the shades of conflict that fall short of "total war".

    Ultimately it becomes about social dynamics: Where is the line dividing "friend of my enemy is my enemy" from "friend of my enemy is uninvolved", and then is the quantity enough that it can be justified/rationalized.

    Only Sith deal in absolutes. Nobody else does. EVER.
     
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  19. drp

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    on an aggressor to save american lives. 100% justified.
     
  20. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Some might say the war was already over and that America rushed to nuke Japan before their surrender was officially announced. It was their last opportunity to use it in the war and using it afterwards would call for more moral questions to be asked than already are.

    But who knows whether that conspiracy is true or not. It's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, after all, on whether it was warranted. None of us were there, that's for sure.