Introducing myself and pl_snail rail

[Seba]

Model .vmt's need to be VertexLitGeneric. Try that.

 

[The301stSpartan]

Using those tips and with a lot of help from Bloodhound I have it working now!
Thanks a lot, will continue the map soon and post more updates maybe tomorrow or next week.

 

[henke37]

You know, this wouldn't have been an issue if you had used the old materials.

 

[The301stSpartan]

What do you mean? I am using the standard valve textures on a custom model.

Also, I need to have thir work with all textures because I plan on making other custom props for the map that might not have fitting valve textures.

 

[henke37]

Material != Texture. A material has zero or more textures. Textures are image files, materials are text files.

And it isn't the standard valve textures if you don't use the valve provided texture files.

 

[The301stSpartan]

Well, I had to modify them to fit the shape of the model. I used the valve provided texture files for that.
I don't understand what you're trying to tell me. Do you say I should've used one material for the model instead of any textures then? I don't get it. I just wanted it to look similar to the default cart tracks and now I have it look that way.

 

[henke37]

I am just reitterating my old point here: you should just have used the existing materials and done the UV mapping to make it fit on the new mesh.

 

[The301stSpartan]

Isn't that exactly what I did?
Sorry, I don't follow you.
But whatever, it's good that I did it this way so I know how to apply textures in general.

 

[Bloodhound]

What Henke is trying to say, is that you didn't used the original VMT files.
Because they use "VertexLitGeneric".
Your VMT file was supposed to be applied to a face in hammer, since it used "LightmappedGeneric".

 

[The301stSpartan]

Oh THAT. Well I knew nothing about .vmt files so I just autoconverted them from the .vtfs. That's why they were wrong.

 

[henke37]

Note that the definition of use here does not include "copied the file and made modifications". It means "used unmodified files as is, without the need to distribute any changed files".

 

[The301stSpartan]

Henke I honestly don't know what you want from me. I made a different model. It needed different textures. So I made fitting textures based on the default ones. So I had to make .vmts that fit them. It didn't work first, now it did. I'm happy with it. End of story.

 

[Pocket]

Henke I honestly don't know what you want from me. I made a different model. It needed different textures.

It didn't, is the point he's trying to make. As I said before, multiple models can reference the same texture.

I do have to wonder how feasible it would have been in the program you were using, though. Anyone here who's decompiled and edited stock models, what did you have to do to make the original textures visible and usable in the editor? Because I know that 3DS Max et al don't have native support for VTF and expect you to build your materials in their own material editor tools. Is there some sort of plugin involved?