Ok, have searched the web, tried several links and all of them seem to indicate that I have propper set up correctly. When I run compile nothing happens :angry: This leads me to three questions: 1] I'm on Windows 7 and when I hit run I have seen the black compile window open and then close almost instantly. 2] Maybe I don't have it set up correctly. Can I confirm with you guys: a] Where should the materials go? I'm using custom materials for my space themed map. b] Where do I put my vmf? Does it matter? 3. The propper entity in hammer (and this might be the cause of the no-working) a] the model name b] the materials path ---- what's the best way to get this set up so that you can find everything so when you go to pack the map it's easy to find? I was thinking that it would be nice to have all the custom models in one spot for this. I used to have it working great before steampipe now I'm scratching my head. Thanks add on - can you use propper to make animated models too?