*sigh*, judging from the search results. Anyway, I am going to do elevators despite the general opinion about them. Specifically, I am doing a payload map with two elevators in the middle of the track. I am using the modern pl system, letting the watcher move the train for me. This works fine and allows me to use the roll back and roll forward zones. I have tried several setups: Func_brush that is parented to the cart. func_track_train that is parented to the cart and then teleported at the end func_move_linear that is run by point_proximity_sensor and a math_remap func_brush that is is moved by a logic_measure_movement So far I haven't had any acceptable results, but the track_train solution at least doesn't have any major issues. Also, to complicate things even further I change the trigger_capture_area during the ride to prevent captures from people who aren't even over the platform. So I am looking for some advice on how to do it.