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Do you like listening to such music?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by deadsource, May 29, 2013.

  1. deadsource

    deadsource L3: Member

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    Yesterday I had a DERP attack and made some garbage and decided to share it with the world. Today, as I woke up I actually said to myself "Would anyone enjoy this crap?" and "Thank god I made a new account just for it. "
    So dear community, answer me. Would you listen to such turd on a daily basis? :)
     
  2. SyntheticSauce

    SyntheticSauce L1: Registered

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    The song in general is pretty good, i don't listen to fast-paced electronic music, but i do listen to electronic. This is just my opinion, and other people may like other things but i think you should work on some mastering, the beat should be lower and less of a sawtooth wave and more of a sine or square wave. Also try shifting the pitch of your sample ("ach-oo") up and down a scale to mix it up. I might listen to this sometime if i'm in the mood ;). It's great that you actually finished a song and posted it to see if people like it, I have tons of unfinished tracks in Ableton Live. Good Luck :)
     
  3. Deodorant

    Deodorant L6: Sharp Member

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    Moderately enjoyable, but I'd prefer a more complex structure. I don't know shit about music theory so I can't explain my thoughts properly, but it felt kind of... One dimensional. Like, there's only one thing going on at a time and the listener just trudges along the path. It would be cool if there were, like, different beats/sounds that cycled at different intervals, repeating themselves but intersecting in new ways, if you understand what I mean...

    The sampling was neat, though.
     
  4. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    Think it sounds too generic, flat and soulless.

    Then again, i'm more into prog rock.
     
  5. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    it's all about those dynamics man, meaning, it cant all be loud, make sure the music flows, crescendos decrescendos and such. This is actually the basis behind why many people dislike "hit" music now-a-days, it's all loud I would like to point to THIS as an example of such.

    As Deodorant and Dr. Element have said before me, shaping the volume will go a long way to help the quality of every song ever produced.
     
  6. Dr. Spud

    aa Dr. Spud Grossly Incandescent

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    That's an example of a CD sacrificing tone quality in favor of loud volume; nothing to do with the songs themselves or their dynamics.
     
  7. SyntheticSauce

    SyntheticSauce L1: Registered

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    Adjusting the volume of the different frequencies and tracks so they can sound good on different devices is mastering audio. I agree, songs can be ruined by bad mastering, If a song is going to played on computer speakers (which have a generally high range in frequency, from low to high) you want to master it a diverse range of sounds in multiple layers. However if you are mastering a song to be played on speakers of a car, radio, or CD player, you want to compress the lows and highs so they are heard better. I think Terwonick's example is valid, he just should have said don't try make a consistently loud and plain song, but one that can be enjoyed fully through varying frequencies and tracks. This completely has to do with a song and it's dynamics, a more dynamic song is more enjoyable, and by compressing and increasing the volume of frequencies just so that it is loud ruins the dynamics of a song.
     
  8. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    I never said anything like that tho.
     
  9. osiem

    osiem L2: Junior Member

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    Hey, I'm a bit into making music myself so I just wanted to let you know that in my opinion it's not the mastering that makes your music quite flat and too straightforward, but the lack of actual composing and the use of counterpoint (leading multiple melodic lines at one time and making them 'talk' with each other).

    Take a look at one example, different genre, but that's not the point. It's just in my opinion a great example of the use of counterpoint in popular music and it shows how harmonizing melodies with each other is sometimes even more important than melodies themselves.

    Toro y Moi - So Many Details
    Notice, how the baseline subtly underlines vocals and then how the jerky, staccato synth in the background 'talks' to base and vox, then what happens when arpeggio and then the backing vocals come in. In the last minute there's like 7 melodic lines harmonizing each other plus chords and it still feels like everything is there for a purpose.
    Sophisticated, intelligent songwriting and arrangement is not reserved only for classical music composers.

    Composing and arranging the music are the most important things, not the flawless sound (check Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti's early recordings, R. Stevie Moore, chillwave genre) If you want to use a specific sample, build the chords around it and then arrange the melodic lines around them. Throwing multiple samples into the program and mixing it up is not the way, bazillions of people do this, and it just makes you so called 'another kid with a laptop' (no offense, just a popular expression).

    Listen to some great popular music composers (you'd be surprised how many electronic music producers mention Beach Boys as one of their main inspiration), remember to have a wide variety of inspirations, because that's the best way to develop your composing sensitivity.

    That's some advice from me, take it or leave it. :)
     
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  10. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    This

    Try to listen to some classical music actually. I found that the part of Mozart's requiem called "lacrimosa" has some pretty interesting ways to use a key piece in a lot of different ways, so it doesn't get repetitive.
     
  11. Deodorant

    Deodorant L6: Sharp Member

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    Hey guys can I also take this as an excuse to post music links?

    Woop woop woop.