Defusal Gamemode

Discussion in 'Tutorials & Resources' started by Roll, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Roll

    aa Roll -in a daze-

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    As seen on koth_defusal. Now you too can make your own confusing koth/not koth map.

    This is a .vmf that includes:
    Entities for defusal hijinks
    Bomb intelligence
    Two control points with rotating bombs on 'em
    MvM announcer voicelines

    This does not include:
    Doors (setup gates, etc.)
    Explosions
    Completed map
    Mission briefing

    V1
    Get it here (I don't have Photoshop installed yet):
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    Go through it, maybe make a small map and test it, and report anything wrong that's happening (and maybe fix it yourself too).
     
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  2. WhyNott

    WhyNott L1: Registered

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    Custom intel model? But... how?
     
  3. Micnax

    aa Micnax I maek map

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    This

    TELL US YOUR WAYS, MIGHTY WIZARD
     
  4. Freyja

    aa Freyja ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    ...Intels have had a custom model parameter for like, 3 or 4 years now?

    And the bomb is from last year's halloween.
     
  5. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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    For most of which, it's been broken though. I suppose they fixed it for MVM?
     
  6. Sergis

    aa Sergis L666: ])oo]v[

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    worked for stroika intel trackpieces more or less

    before mvm came and intel trackpieces and proper cart collisions became incompatible
     
  7. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    finish stroika
     
  8. Roll

    aa Roll -in a daze-

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    idk i just put in the halloween bomb model and it worked
     
  9. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    Bomb carrier should be more like this
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  10. Spipper

    aa Spipper Former cheese man Gorgonzola

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    I think, I have heard somewhere, that only certain models work, because Valve wanted to prevent people from parenting fake cosmetic items to players. I'm not 100 % sure, so don't quote me on this.

    I think that's why the bomb model works, because it's one of the few models allowed to be parented to players.
     
  11. mint onion

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    cool idea Roflman. i'd like and try to make a map for it.

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    i also have some feedback on your setup that you might consider for v2.

    most of the points i make are only a matter of taste and are not very game-altering so, some points might sound super nit-picky. all the work you do now will be multiplied by each map created for it. the same can be said for each mistake so, i applaud your efforts and remember, subjective opinions taste great with salt!

    1. the setup timer.

    there is no visible clock during the setup which can be disorienting. i think it would make more sense using the koth announcement where the announcer says nothing at first and then, "5,4,3,2,1! Control Point Enabled!" Maybe there is a soundclip that references a bomb you can use in place of "Control Point Enabled!"

    2. the bomb asset.

    first off, i agree with the others and love how you've used the bomb! it's a very strong iconic symbol that works perfectly.

    while the green blinking effect on the bomb looks awesome when locked:
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    when unlocked, and opaque, the jet black blink is very garish:
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    combined with the spinning, the blinking does increase visibility of the game piece, which i think is valuable. if you were to create the same blinking effect without the jet black silhouette, i think it'd be perfect.

    instead, perhaps you could use the regular appearance, like you had for when a point is capped:
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    i think when red defuses the bomb, it would be cool if it dissipated in a poof of smoke.

    and i think it would make more sense if the bomb blinked blue rather than green. i think it would separate it further from the Halloween events and bring it closer to the team color theme used throughout the game. regardless... the effect looks very cool.

    3. picking up and dropping the bomb.

    when the bomb is dropped, it clips into the ground and the countdown icon isn't centered, which i think makes it look slightly broken.
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    there is no sound notification when it is picked up, nor when it is dropped like one might expect from playing ctf. i would rather a sound effect than nothing at all so i have some sort of tactile feedback.

    when the bomb is picked up, the HUD indicator turns black, which i think is neat:
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    however, the circle changes size, which i think looks clunky. also, the arrow doesn't point to the drop off point like in ctf, which is actually very useful. in this case, i'd want two arrows, one for each delivery point.

    i don't know how to integrate it, but i quickly made a bomb graphic you might want to use to replace the house icon with:
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    i think your countdown battery icon is awesome.

    i think it'd be fun if, when the bomb was dropped and its timer ran out, it EXPLODED! damaging the players and buildings in a radius around it. making a timer icon like this might also be cool:
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    allowing the bomb to roll around might also be interesting. it might make for some interesting passing techniques or it might be fun rolling it into sentries so it'd time out and explode.

    4. capture times.

    i imagine, in order for the red team to successfully defend, they would build defends around both points, while blu would try and break down or run past these defenses. it might make more sense to allow a faster or instant cap time for blu, so that once they bring the bomb to a point, the fuse is lit and the timer starts counting down for them. i think it will encourage blu to maintain a faster pace similar to the one that's created in ctf.

    all-in-all, it's very cool. i'll keep you posted on any progress i make with my map.

    cheers.
     
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  12. mint onion

    mint onion L3: Member

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    here's another take on the bomb timer icon:
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  13. mint onion

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    i played around in koth_defusal. i like how you used the large doors to block the direct paths to a point, making it harder for red after blu had captured. i also noticed you intended the mode to use setup gates, which makes sense. having looked at just the setup file, i thought blu would have had to venture out to get the bomb first before capping so some of what i suggested probably didn't make much sense.
     
  14. mint onion

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