Competent payload tutorials? (for absolute beginners)

[Itspice]

i tried following this one

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVQeTh9xq8E
but it was very unhelpful as when it came to logic and setting up the cart they didnt explain anything and just copyied and pasted values instead of explaining them. is there any competent tutorial out there that is helpful?

 

[Scion]

There's this
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/TF2/Creating_a_Payload_Map
but other than that, there aren't any other good payload tutorials that I know of. I learned by asking questions in #mapping-help on the discord.

 

[Alternating Current]

You could use the ABS prefab. That's what I used for Icecap, and... well, the logic works fine. The map? Not so much.

 

[Kill_the_Bug]

Payload is one of the hardest to get the game play balance right. Start of with the payload logic you want i.e. single stage vs multi stage, find it here:
https://tf2maps.net/threads/ultimate-mapping-resource-pack.4674/
Then once you have the code, copy it into your base bap set up, change all the variables to what you need i.e. cart name, cap point names, number of cap points (can't exceed eight) etc.
and have fun

 

[Alternating Current]

Forgive me asking, but... why would someone ever create an 8-point payload map?

 

[Da Spud Lord]

You probably won't ever need that many CPs. The highest number in any official map is Goldrush, with 7 CPs. The highest in a single stage is Swiftwater, which has 5, and that map is usually considered very long.

 

[Alternating Current]

I mean, I'm pretty sure pl_angkor has 8 points - but that is understandable, as it has "control points".