KotH ClearCut Pre-B4-2

A small, fast paced alpine themed KotH map.

  1. SturmTrpr

    SturmTrpr L1: Registered

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    ClearCut - A small, fast paced alpine themed KotH map.[/plain[B]:

    So Tell Me What You Think?:
     
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  2. YOYOYO

    YOYOYO L7: Fancy Member

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    Wow... four years?! With my attention span I wouldn't even make it through the first! Over all this map is actually pretty good. The outside world could be worked on, but besides that its really good!

    Actually, another bit of criticism would be the unusually bright lighting for a nighttime map. Not that making it unnecessarily dark is a good thing,. because it will quickly go from bright Cartoony TF2 to dark depressing Half life.

    Still, nice.
     
  3. Da Spud Lord

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    Yes, the lighting feels unusually bright for a nighttime map. The map could definitely benefit from a 3D skybox, both to give the map more realistic surroundings and to cover up the white bottom half of the 2D skybox. Additionally, the rock prop directly next to the control point on Red's side is unusually dark, the one at the center of this image:
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    Other than that, the map looks visually great. I can't pass too much of a judgement on the gameplay because I haven't had a chance to play it, but the layout is definitely intriguing.
     
  4. Xayir

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    i agree with spud lord visuals are great and layout looks interesting cant wait to try it out
     
  5. Kingorcoc

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    looks really nice u should get this shit tested for 6s and hl (looks better for hl imo)
     
  6. SturmTrpr

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    Major Changes:
    -Removed both under and around flank routes to better focus player attention on the capture point. The side building now has been re-purposed to have a small health and ammo kit with stairs leading to the point.

    -Two doors on the lower spawn transition buildings have been enlarged to decrease difficulty in pushing out of spawn.

    -Health and ammo kits have been moved slightly to make getting to them easier. It no longer requires a crouch jump and one of them is now behind cover.

    -Left upper cliff in the second courtyard has been opened slightly more so players don't get stuck in the cubby where the health and ammo once sat.

    -Lighting has been overhauled to make it feel more like night time, and the mid has gotten better spotlights.

    -Added ramp to get up to the point from the sides.
    Minor changes
    -Lights moved for better coverage.

    -Clipping fixes

    -Displacement sews with alphas changes for a better look.

    -New lights added in some places.

    -Polished the saw blades.
    To those wondering, pictures will be posted soon.

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    Last edited: Jan 30, 2018
  7. Messing Around

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    your map needs optimisation, there's no fps drop when i testing it but it laggy as hell, don't wait until release

    Edit: it did drop, i just tested again, from ~250 to ~90 fps
     
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  8. Dwaggy

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    I will let my brother SturmTrpr know about the problems. I have high fps, but even I notice the frame drop as well when I went to mid, I will keep looking for areas of frame drops to see to the optimization. Thanks for your feedback :D.
     
  9. Ved

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    It all looks really great and well thought out, but from what I can see there's not too many places for small ammo and health kits. It may be just from what I can see in the pictures, but if not, the map could benefit from having small packs near to mid or something of the sort. Keep up the fantastic work ;).
     
  10. SturmTrpr

    SturmTrpr L1: Registered

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    I have noticed frame drops in certain areas, I have been avoiding this for a while. Unfortunately, I can't wait anymore. I will get to work on finalizing the lighting and adding proper portals.
     
  11. Messing Around

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    because your whole map is all-time rendered, use these commands: sv_cheat 1; mat_wireframe 3

    you'll notice that without Hint or Area portal brush, the game will always draw out the whole map, even if you can only see a part of it


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne59X-e-R9Y


    you could cut your map in half with hint brush, as a "hot-fix"
    even though those competitive guys have there own config to boost the fps, but i don't think they'd like the huge fps drop
     
  12. SturmTrpr

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    Ty for the info, I'l get started right away.
     
  13. Kore4n

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    Love the map! May want to add another spawn door as the two doors are easily trappable by demomen at top left, though. The many cool places to hide in the ceiling, roofs, and high walls will probably make this a very soldier-oriented map too. This is all coming from a 6s player, but I think the map's just big for both 6s and highlander. Also, adding mid packs in main house and right side saw house wouldn't hurt!

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    Left is a little too far back from the point and low down so I don't see myself going there too often in 6v6, but other than that I'd enjoy seeing this in the regular UGC map rotation if you can convince them to add it. :)
     
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  14. Beater

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    Just from running through this map I'd say it looks pretty promising. It seems slightly larger than your average 6v6 koth map, but at the same time it's pretty simple, so keeping track of enemy flankers should be doable. I'd love to test this out once you fix the terrible lag that the map has.
     
  15. SturmTrpr

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    Major Changes:
    -Added rocks to right side stairs to provide cover.
    -Enlarged main house lower door to compensate for the choke that the rock previously mentioned created.
    The Actual Rocky Part:
    The map has frame issues. This isn't surprising to those who have played it recently. Unfortunately this won't be an easy fix, huge chunks of detail may have to be scraped in order to optimize frame rates. Buildings need re-working and this is all because of how I (unconventionally) built the map. This will take some time and the next update is far away from now, but like bungee once said,"It has to be fun before it looks nice."​

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  16. shotspike3

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    I really like the map and all but the lighting can use a bit of work, also maybe another spawn door would be good, and I think I found a bug. you can basically stand on the bars right there on both sides. But overall its a great map
     

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  17. SturmTrpr

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    What's This?:
    This is mostly for just feedback on framerate and such, the update is not finished. However, I needed some way to test out framerates and that is why a almost finished version of b4 has been posted.

    Some Changes:
    -Added a skybox(unfinished)
    -Made Areaportals for all large interior buildings
    -Attempted to create a working hint system(No dice)
    -Messed around with lighting a bit.​

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  18. Messing Around

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    still lag though (I usually got ~300fps), but keep it up
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  20. SturmTrpr

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    I'll look into those.