CP Blast a27

By FiLi

  1. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    Blast is a 3CP gravelpit-style map based on blast furnace and ore smelting facilities. Eventually it'll take place on some kind of desert plateau or enclave or something else that fits my stupid long-standing structural decisions.

    Thanks to:
    -ABS for the gameplay entities
    -The arch tool
    -Roflman
    -Hydro for stairs
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2015
  2. Idolon

    aa Idolon the worst admin

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    Looks like a blast to play.

    Puns aside, this does look fun. B looks like it might have some sightline issues though.
     
  3. Pocket

    aa Pocket func_croc

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    My thoughts so far:

    Point A seems unfairly weighted towards explosive-jumpers, with only one conventional path to the second level.

    Putting the stairwell at C in a spot where it's essentially behind RED when they come out of spawn is confusing and not recommended.
     
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  4. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    a13:
    -Roflman detailed BLU spawn
    -Did some detailing on A and B
    -Fixed lighting problem around A
     
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  5. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    a15 (woohoo):
    -changed paths to A
    -choked up on some areas
    -added visual cues and more signs
    -added another resupply cabinet but keeping location until i find a true reason to move them upstairs
    -put glass in windows at B and re-opened path from C>B thru window frame
    -gave better visibility to blu's doors
    -put door triggers inside blu so red can get out if trapped
     
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  8. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    Updated to a18:
    I didn't like how the points played, so I changed the map drastically. It's still a 3cp built around a blast furnace, but completely rebuilt. I'm more proud of this layout because I created it around the theme and not around "hm what did that map do here". I attempted to vary flanks and just make things better in general, but I guess we'll see how it went soon enough.
     
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  9. Bakscratch

    aa Bakscratch Finisher of Maps

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    Hey, we did some feedback you might wanna take a look at.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ry2gRyaZbs

    Also more about your middle area.

    You really need to simplify it down, it is way to complex and not needed. example look at gravel pits mid, there isn't one its just one route.
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    So yeah simplify it down.

    Also please take the a+b from slag and swap it with these ones, we to do that in the gameday feedback.
     
  10. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    Blast has returned with an a19. It will be on a gameday/imp soon. However many alphas it takes to make this map great.

    Also pay no attention to that last screenshot
     
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  11. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    it's been a while but blast isn't dead yet

    a21:
    -finished first semester of college
    -forgot i never tested a20
    -reworked last point
    -changed up mids
     
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    aa HQDefault ...what

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    Sick :D
     
  13. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    not quite as long a gap this time

    a22:
    -became a cadet at Norwich University
    -changed up C with the help of Roflman
    -made railings non-solid/playerclipped
    -added more pickups
     
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  14. Egan

    aa Egan

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    Hey I'm not sure if you saw the announcement for it yesterday but we did play a22 of blast. Here's the feedback page (has link to demos).

    Overall feelings were that B was probably never going to get taken before A, since B was so much harder to get a foothold on. C point got taken pretty quickly, I think it has to do with respawn times because I kept asking "where is red team?" when we pushed through B to C. C point was very cool looking though.

    Attacking B was difficult because you could only attack it from directly in front, and it was difficult to evade line of sight of the people standing on the top balcony, who could take off half your health in a single blow due to their height advantage, it was just suicide to go in this direction:

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    Personally I'd like to see a small service building in place here to allow me to get out of their line of sight a bit, or to have just some small safe point there, it's really up to you to how it would be done, but something to help me survive the trek would be nice:

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    Similar to this one from gorge-ish, or the one on hydro:

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  15. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    Thanks for the feedback Egan. Seeing how C has always capped so fast I think respawn times are most likely the issue since they've never changed even when the point has. And thanks for testing it even though I don't think I ever asked :V
     
  16. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    a24:
    -removed balcony right next to B point
    -added house/cover from spawn>b (thx egan)
    -changed b>c route to b>a route
    -made a a little easier to defend (hopefully)
    -made the sun less incandescent
     
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  17. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    a25:
    -added new C>A route to help RED
    -minor fixes/detailing

    hoping to test this version and maybe move to beta!!!
     
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  18. Another Bad Pun

    Server Staff Another Bad Pun over my dead body

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    About that gorge shed: I think it worked because there was lots of room around it to take cover, spam enemies below you, two doorways going in and out...
    I haven't played the new versions of the map or anything but I'm just thinking having a fence right next to it might not be the best thing for player mobility
     
  19. FiLi

    FiLi L4: Comfortable Member

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    A26 done quick. I swear, all these versions are from minor changes, not to mention the fact that I reverted a lot of ideas, so in the end, this is really like A20. Anyways, I took some suggestions and checked out some stuff and I think I should be done with alpha soon

    A26:
    -Accidentally disabled decals in screenshots
    -Tore up concrete at B and added rocks
    -Further neutralized BLU's entrance to B
    -Left the lights off in RED spawn (for now)
    -Rebuilt the blast furnace at C in an attempt to shift action to it
    -Enlarged B>C doors
    -Added more decals
    -Made BLU's entrance to B a little less ugly
     
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  20. Egan

    aa Egan

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    I, and other have, posted feedback about hitting the edge of the stairs leading out from blue spawn on their way out, and I think I know a way you can fix it without changing the aesthetic of the room.

    In watergate I put up these thin clips against the angle of the pipe-route to mid's top, so that when i walked at the pipe it would push me up as if it were stairs (the max height for a stair 'step' is 18 units):

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    So, in the same sense, you could do very thin 18 unit-high steps against the stair edge so people don't just get stuck and go back to spawn, they are carried up the steps:

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    Would need to clip the edge leading towards the spawns flush-angled towards the stairs so people just get pushed forwards and don't stop.
    This is super serious business, I get caught on that shit like 25% of the time I leave blue spawn. :(
     
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