Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[Psy]

As with other BF games there is an option to enable localised VO but the option seems to be broken in the BETA.

 

[lana]

"An" extra bullet? We're talking about the PC version, right?

Aim higher

 

[Terr]

So what's the damage bonus for a headshot? I only got headshot messages after the most recent patch.

 

[lana]

I think it's instant kill with all weapons.

 

[Eyce]

So what's the damage bonus for a headshot? I only got headshot messages after the most recent patch.

It's always been there, I'm not sure if it's a single hit kill with Assault Rifles/SMG's because everybody's wearing helmets and I hear the clinging sound multiple times

 

[lana]

It's instant kill with RPGs, as I've discovered on numerous occasions of wasteful usage of ammo.

 

[Terr]

If it were TF2 I'm just pop out some bots and do tests there... Meh.

 

[Radaka]

Now I've preordered Bad Company 2 on steam. Yay for it being more fun the more I play it!

 

[drp]

it DEFINATELY grows on you. i hated it for the first few hours

 

[DJive]

it DEFINATELY grows on you. i hated it for the first few hours

Good.

I was wondering about this.

I've only played into it maybe an hour or 2. Enough time ot play D twice and O twice.

So far its very "MEH" as im getting killed Err... MURDERED by everyones 12x upgraded gun/mortar etc.

I'll put a few more hours into it before i say i like or dislike it.

 

[Freyja]

So far I've experienced it as a really choppy and laggy game where I can't tell very well whats going on. There seems to be no coordination of the team and the spawnpoints seem to be well away from what you need to be doing. I think. Considering the game doesn't tell you well what you're supposed to be doing.
Servers in my city are ~300 ping and the FPS seems to be really choppy despite me being able to run MW2 on the highest settings without and inkling of choppyness.

 

[eyefork]

Good.

I was wondering about this.

I've only played into it maybe an hour or 2. Enough time ot play D twice and O twice.

So far its very "MEH" as im getting killed Err... MURDERED by everyones 12x upgraded gun/mortar etc.

I'll put a few more hours into it before i say i like or dislike it.

Hah, that's how I felt when I first started as well. I'd recommend going Medic. Keep dropping the health kit around your teammates, and revive them when they die (the heart monitor symbol on the radar). I think it's one of the more fun classes, and it helps you level up pretty quickly.

 

[Tapp]

As I said, such a dynamic environment would be hell to optimise. You'd have buildings made entirely out of occluders and areaportals, and even the ground cannot be properly optimised because it can be destroyed slightly (not too far, so some world brushes can exist). Take on top of that fifty-bazillion dynamic entities and complementary shadows, and you'd be lucky to run it on a crysis computer (not really).

 

[Radaka]

And then you realise just how outdated the source engine is. Not every engine uses brushwork as a basis.

 

[Naso]

I remember someone posting, I don't know if it was on this forum or not, a video and a web page showing what I remember to be some software that Intel has made that auto optimizes maps. Spend ages looking for it, but to no avail.

 

[Psy]

As I said, such a dynamic environment would be hell to optimise. You'd have buildings made entirely out of occluders and areaportals, and even the ground cannot be properly optimised because it can be destroyed slightly (not too far, so some world brushes can exist). Take on top of that fifty-bazillion dynamic entities and complementary shadows, and you'd be lucky to run it on a crysis computer (not really).

Frostbite is a modern engine so therefore it uses models for pretty much everything unlike Source which is a bit of an old foggy with its brush-based shenanigans.

 

[Randdalf]

afaik, the old BF2 engine didn't use brushes at all either, just models and a huge terrain "displacement" on the ground

Brushes give a lot more creative freedom to the map maker imo

 

[Psy]

Level designers are expected to know how to model nowadays so you are, in fact, less restricted because there are few limitations with models compared to brushes allowing to create all sorts of things like in this and this. Plus they make creating levels much easier as you're using the same models over and over again allowing you to save a new version and have all instances updated straight away.

 

[Radaka]

I remember someone posting, I don't know if it was on this forum or not, a video and a web page showing what I remember to be some software that Intel has made that auto optimizes maps. Spend ages looking for it, but to no avail.

The tech that you're thinking of is called Umbra Occlusion (I think).

 

[Naso]

Yeah that's exactly it, thanks. Every game dev should use this software!