PL Alongside b8

[SaltyPapi]

Freight - An open payload map set in a freight yard.

BLU doesn't take kindly to competitors, and their freight division has a few things to say.

BLU's goal is to sink a massive cargo ship, the Boaty Mcxsplodey before it can depart on its maiden voyage!

First playable version of this map. I've run it through some sims with bots, and the results come out a bit BLU-sided (offence), but bots are pretty dumb, so I wouldn't count on that result.

 

[Idolon]

There is already a map by the name of Freight. You may want to consider changing your map's name to reduce confusion (e.g. someone may mistake it for a payload version of cp_freight).

 

[SaltyPapi]

There is already a map by the name of Freight. You may want to consider changing your map's name to reduce confusion (e.g. someone may mistake it for a payload version of cp_freight).

Yes, I've unfortunately already been told in the wip channel on discord. I thought I had done my due diligence with the name, as it was called pl_drydock not too long ago, but changed it last minute before uploading as I had seen another map with that name. Totally forgot that freight was taken too! So I'll change it for the a2 release, but I'll leave it as-is for now.

 

[SaltyPapi]

a3 Changelog:

-Changed map name to pl_alongside
-complete overhaul due to various issues, the map being oversized being a major factor.
-More interesting areas to play in while keeping in theme with the ideas of the previous version
-cleaner geometry
-each team now has 3 spawn rooms, which change depending on progression, which should make walk times much better
-I tried using a "lines of engagement" approach, which involved formulating a better understanding of frontlines, backlines, and where and how both teams meet near and around points
-better signage
-fixed missing respawnroom brushes
-gave some points better forward holds


All in all, the changes are quite substantial.
I hope you enjoy playing, and let me know what you think!

thanks

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[SaltyPapi]

Alongside_a4 changelog:

-reorganized buildings around the choke right after CP_A, giving blu more high ground to attack

-moved red first spawn back after B

-put more space between A and B and C

-changed building between B and C

-a new area between C and D, it opens up and should provide more interest

-D is now further away from E

-Attacking the last point is now done from the same level as the point

-E is now smaller than it was; it doesn't open up as much

-removed overly long spawn times for red second spawn

(I'm definitely going to have to start a more stringent optimisation pass, as these compile times are ridiculous.


overall, the changes are quite significant,

I hope you all enjoy playing!

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[SaltyPapi]

Alongside_a4a Changelog:
I am aware of the feedback left during the last playtest concerning the sizes of playable spaces in the map. I'm tabling those until later to tackle some of the other issues.

- Fixed the Cart getting stuck on steep ramps at high speeds
- updated troublesome geometry
- added more troublesome geometry (in orange dev)
- tackled sniper sightline issues
- tank prop is now solid
- fix Out of Bounds issues
- fixed death pit not killing
- added props to last
- preliminary optimization pass (actually made it a decent skybox now, not just a diaper)
- added a new room near the first point
- opened up the diagonal choke after B a tiny bit
- fixed broken resupply in BLU's second spawn
- spawn teleports now work
- moved the whole map off of the origin, I.E., moved it into one of the quadrants to avoid any unnecessary visleaves from being formed. (Unintended consequence of moving my map off of a reasonable grid forever . )
- added a small crate jump near D because Nesman is too short

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[SaltyPapi]

Changelog:


Big changes in this version!

A point:

Gave Blue Spawn an exit near the top, coming down on top of the cart.

Removed left-most blue spawn exit (left-most in respect to BLU)

Widened the side building near BLU spawn

Added a crate so that Red could contest the middle building

Moved the cap up the hill

Added a ramp near the newly moved point so that Red could contest the upper parts

Removed 1 drop-down

Re-jiggered RED’s first spawn, it is now between A and the B-point building

B point:

New Building for B, now featuring Boat gameplay!

Much roomier and should provide some interesting gameplay experiences

Red has a second spawn after the B building which they spawn from once A is captured

Once B is captured, BLU get a forward spawn

C point:

Using some older geometry, used to help bridge the gap between B and D, which are pretty far apart.

D point:

New area for D, a more open zone with some interesting elements with which to play around

E point:

New final building and courtyard for E. the final ramp up until the explosion is the same, but the rest could more or less be said to be completely new

Featuring a moving platform as part of the playable area, not standard, but hopefully it’s fun

It’s a bigger building, so it shouldn’t feel cramped, hopefully.

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[SaltyPapi]

Changelog

-Added another spawn for each team; when B is capped, Red gets a 3rd spawn, likewise for C and Blu. This should make it easier and quicker to get to the points for both teams

-fixed a few vis issues.

-adjusted some sections of track

-adjusted some pickups around B

-added some cover around the map to help limit some nasty sightlines

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[SaltyPapi]

Changelog:

-fixed ghost cart on A

-added a small healthkit on A

misc adjustments and fixes

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[SaltyPapi]

Changelog:

B Point
-added back a missing ammo pack on B
-changed BLU's approach on B slightly
-the Boat on B can now thematically make sense, ie, it now looks as if it could actually leave and enter the building
-to make room for this aesthetic change, the window room has been shortened
-modified BLU's 1st forward spawn, added a second door to the side which shortens walk times slightly

C Point
-yard area between B and C has been modified
-a new path for BLU onto C has been added as a dropdown
-modified BLU's pickups on C choke
-Capturing C now gives BLU more time (90s > 180)

D Point
-RED's 3rd spawn has a second exit, a drop down into the side rooms which surround the courtyard on D

E Point, Last
-modified prop placement and density on Last
-added some pickups on last
-slightly modified some geometry

Misc
-general clipping changes and fixes
-added a displacement to BLU's 1st spawn yard

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog

- First and foremost, I changed the max amount of time allowed and the starting time on the clock.
- I adjusted spawn wave times for both teams, varying them when necessary
- Misc. clipping fixes
- MORE CUBEMAPS EVERYWHERE
- Opened the barriers on A, removing some cover for Red to bombard the point with pipes
- BLU's second spawn now exclusively opens to the side, I'm hoping to alleviate some confusion about spawning 180 degrees from B
- Added another ramp from the lower...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

Big changes for this version! After receiving a bunch of feedback, I had to rework quite a bit, including;
- Removed a point, the map was too long.
- Reworked B and C points.
- Overhaul of spawn to point timing, so hopefully, it feels better to play.
- Lighting pass, the map was dark.
- Removed convoluted pathing.

A point:
- Removed extra room on Blue's left, and added "Crates" to get on the left roof.
- Modified geometry around the point, giving Red some high ground overlooking...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

-Reworked BLU's first spawn.
-Reworked some buildings in the first yard on A point.
-Turntable on B now has effects.
-Fixed Turntable causing the cart to stop permanently.
-Reduced gained time on B.
-Red now auto spawns once C is capped.
-Max time has been reduced from 14 minutes to 10 minutes.
-Minor pickup rework on A.
-Added more pickups overall, all over the map.
-Doors in both RED (2nd and 3rd) spawns and BLU (2nd and 3rd) spawns now have correct skins to indicate enabled...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

Quickfix for a weird spawning bug where BLU spawned in RED's first spawn once B was capped.

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[SaltyPapi]

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Changelog:

-Moved Red's first spawn backwards to behind B point, the same location as their spawn for both B and C points.
-Reworked the central building on A, refined the geometry and gave BLU access to what was previously a drop-down.
-Removed the empty space right after A, unnecessary.
-Closed off one access to both B point and C point, which confused players. It now opens after B, leading to a 1-way door for BLU team onto C.
-C is now behind a gate which opens after B is captured, à la...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

-Overall simplification of the map, I closed off a bunch of routes and bad flanks and trimmed a bunch of excessive and confusing geometry.
-Made the point easier to defend; I gave Red better defensive options and access to packs.
-I brought the points back further into Red territory.
-The gate on B now opens only after the turntable has finished rotating, giving Red more time to set up.
-The side route on C, originally a one-way door, now leads to a building instead of...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

-A and B points both rolled, upgraded some of Red's Ammo on B
-Added the lighting that I forgot in Red's last spawn
-Added a small flank route for Blu on Last
-C was very chokey, Opened up the flank house, removed some access for Red, Red no longer spawns at a quicker rate (was 7.5s, now up to 9s), Ammo on the point has been reduced for Red
-The Blu flank onto the last arena before the last point has been changed to favour Blu a bit more

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:
-Reintroduced a flank at C, from Flank house to point
-Moved Red's spawn after B is capped to last
-Reintroduced a staircase for the flank house in the last arena to help Red get back to C better
-Blu now gains more time after C is capped
-Reduced Full ammo on Red's high ground on B to Medium
-Reduced Med health behind block on B to small
-Reduced med. health near full ammo on B to small
-Reduced that full ammo to med.
-Fixed some faulty logic on B
-Broke up the overpass on B...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:

-Major changes to last, hopefully it will be more balanced and easier to take. The geometry should also be more conducive to good gameplay.
-Deliberate changes to last include more competition for the moving platform, lower flank for Blu, clearer main route, and decluttered entrances.
-Reworked Red's first spawn
-Reworked the side building on B
-The boat on C was slightly lowered
-Added obstacles right after A to reduce sightlines.
-Team colour for the spawns, though I forgot to...

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[SaltyPapi]

SaltyPapi updated Alongside with a new update entry:

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Changelog:
-Choke between A and B points has been widened
-Added an upper route for choke between A and B which overlooks the problem area
-Changed cover on same choke
-Reduced the med and ammo in the little cubby on same choke to smalls
-Reduced some ammo on B to small
-Changed some old geometry on A which I saw was confusing some people

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