A Fourth Gameday During the Summer?

Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by MungoKing, May 11, 2009.

  1. MungoKing

    MungoKing L3: Member

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    Today I learned that I only had 16 full days of school left, and came to the sudden realization that I really don't have a whole lot planned for the summer (no vacation, economy blah blah). Over the course of my time in this community I have also learned that major changes can be made in alpha maps very quickly. More than one day, but less than a whole week. Then the thought occurred to me- many of the people in this community are still in high-school/college, and will also have the summer off. They have the extra time for mapping, and playing games in general, why not have a fourth gameday? This fourth gameday would perhaps be on a Wednesday (middle of the week) and be strictly for alpha maps. Thirty minutes slots as usual, perhaps a shorter total run time. The goal of this would be for mappers to get through the alpha stages much faster, or give them more testing on their alpha maps for any variety of reasons. Alternatively, this could strictly be for late beta maps that are nearing final, and want more balance testing. It could go either way depending on demand. So- what do you guys think? Would it be doable? Would it be worth it? I encourage you to post any ideas!
     
  2. Kronixx

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  3. The Political Gamer

    aa The Political Gamer

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    Yes this would be great, my map has so many problems...
     
  4. Squirrelinabox

    Squirrelinabox L1: Registered

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    I haven't been around here for very long, but I definitely enjoyed having my first map in last weekend's gameday. As such, I think a middle of the week gameday may be great since some people's weekend schedules may be a problem.

    If there were a game day in the middle of the week, I'd like to suggest that the times be "after work" hours since a good a amount probably do have day jobs but could play an hour or so after work.
     
  5. MungoKing

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    I was really hoping for some more feedback on this thread. Specifically from more experienced mappers; do you think this would be beneficial? I think the community as a whole might have to show a little more interest in this if you actually want it to happen ;)
     
  6. Loc_n_lol

    Loc_n_lol L10: Glamorous Member

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    What about the people who have a job ? :p

    Personnally I wouldn't mind but is there enough 'material' for a 4th gameday every week ? Wouldn't that result in some kind of burnout in the long run, resulting in a drop in the number of players and the quality of playtests ?
     
  7. MungoKing

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    Well if there was enough interest a time that fit everyone's schedules would have to be decided.

    Like I said previously, the gameday would be shorter, a sort of secondary Gameday. It would also only be for alpha maps, or for more playtesting for later Beta maps, whichever was in more demand. Theoretically it could be changed from week to week, although I'm not sure how much the person setting up gamedays (A Boojum Snark) would appreciate it, or how it would be determined.
     
  8. Armadillo of Doom

    aa Armadillo of Doom Group Founder, Lover of Pie

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    What Loc_n_lol describes is what I had feared when we added Friday to the weekend schedule. I don't think that dividing maps based on their completion is a good idea. While it is Summer vacation for those in school, most people still work or have other plans during the weekday. I haven't had any complaints about being unable to get a map test for at least 1 Gameday. But if we actually fill past capacity again, we can always try weekend evenings before moving on to the main week. I just don't think we have enough demand to warrant an additional day right now. That could certainly change once our next major contest has started, but for now we seem to be ok.
     
  9. A Boojum Snark

    aa A Boojum Snark Toraipoddodezain Mazahabado

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    For the record, once my scheduling application is fully operational dealing with more days will be pie.
     
  10. MrAlBobo

    MrAlBobo L13: Stunning Member

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    personally id like to see more impromptu map tests as opposed to more "formal" gamedays

    people should be able to just grab a few people on a whim to try out any new changes they may have made
     
  11. Shmitz

    aa Shmitz Old Hat

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    Four gamedays a week? If we did that we might have to switch to new servers every week instead of every two weeks!


    On a more serious note, while it probably wouldn't hurt, I'm with MrAlBobo in thinking we should encourage people to join the chat more often and get some of a regulars to hop on the server for more immediate feedback to changes at the alpha level. Most times of the day you'll be able to find an admin that can upload your map, and if you're really lucky, he might even be able to switch to the map. And if you're fantastically fortunate, he might also be a steam group admin who can post an event to get more people to join.
     
  12. Mar

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    Why not try it? If it doesn't work out just drop it.
     
  13. Armadillo of Doom

    aa Armadillo of Doom Group Founder, Lover of Pie

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    That is exactly what I have tried to do, and why we have the direct upload service for vips.
     
  14. Mar

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    And you need to donate to be a VIP, correct?
     
  15. MungoKing

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    Ah cool, thanks I-D, I was hoping an administrator would reply, good to hear your input on it. I agree we don't need a fourth Gameday right now, or even more Gameday time; but, I do not agree about trying weekend evenings before a separate day. After playing through an entire Gameday, or multiple Gamedays, I, at least, tend to be a bit TF2'd out and playing more TF2 is about the last thing I want to do, maybe that's just me though. I think a Gameday during the week could be useful for people with schedule's that don't allow them to be at the weekend Gamedays. Although, GrimGriz did try this, with limited success, maybe something would change if it was a true TF2Maps.net event? The easiest way to find out all these questions would just be to try out all of our options though.

    MrAlBobo, I would prefer that over a fourth Gameday also, but I'm not sure how the current situation can be remedied. It seems like the only way to populate the TF2Maps.net server without it being a Gameday is to have an experienced mapper release the new version of their map, or a new map. I wish there was more enthusiasm for play testing outside of Gamedays too, but I can't really think of any practical ways, as most of the time the populating is done from a group Admin (Usually an experienced mapper) posting an announcement + event about their new map and the play testing they need. I suppose administrators could post events for other mappers? Any other ideas from administrators, moderators, or experienced mappers would be appreciated.
     
  16. ChronoTriggerFan

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    Would be nicer if we could get an official event made at any time, such as on steam community. right now having to sign up, wait a day or 2 for some mod to approve it, then have no one come is pretty lame.
     
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