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DJive

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With the election getting close and debates started lets keep all comments to this one thread.

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Nineaxis

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Biden is laughing at Palin. During the debate. I think that pretty much sums it up.
 

DJive

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Biden is laughing at Palin.

So is the rest of the USA, sadly i think because of Her and our past 2 administrations i think the World is as well.
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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All I'll say is meh. I know where I stand on the political spectrum, and I know how far apart each candidate is from where I am. I know who I will vote for, though that ticket still is far from ideal for me, but I also realize my vote won't matter (I live in California, which last election had a such a huge gap between tickets that we're never going to be an important state again).
 

Cerulean

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Biden is DOMINATING Palin.

I'm writing in Arnold on my vote







Get in the choppa!
 
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DJive

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On one hand, as someone whose livelihood depends on the state of gun laws in the US I dislike Biden with a passion (particularly after his outright degrading remarks in response to a gun owner's question on air awhile back) but I fear no amount of Second Amendment support can outweigh Palin's utter lack of intellect.

I hope the democrats are too busy trying to fix the economy to start throwing around gun bans again. "The government would never ban your hunting rifle. They would call it a sniper rifle first."
 

Zeewier

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Will I get flamed when i say Socialism? (Socialism is a very normal word in the Netherlands)
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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Socialism has never been a major player in the US like it is in Europe (or has been, idk much about your political history), though we do have several socialist aspects - the welfare state, which have been around since FDR's New Deal during the Great Depression.
 

grazr

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As long as the one who gets voted in can save the American banks from going bankrupt and purchasing the British banks to compensate for the dodgy cash flow i don't really mind who gets in.

The day that American economy depends on the strength of the British Sterling and banking systems is a sad day indeed. Not that the Sterling has ever been bad (infact it's been pretty phenominal, atleast up untill recently).

I'll be pretty sour if America drags The UK down into a stock market crash. Our countries in so much debt as it is it would destroy us.

/me starts preparing the fortifications around his house.
 

Shadowfield

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And she's anti-abortionist. In my view, if you're against abortions, don't have one, but you have absolutely no right to tell someone else what they can and can't do. Kind of a no-brainer to me.

Anyways, I should register soon. This will be my first elections, and I need to get an absentee ballot.


Oh, and by the way, Canada's having an election Oct 14. Thought you guys might be interested. Or not, cause it IS Canadian politics...
 
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Armadillo of Doom

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And she's anti-abortionist. In my view, if you're against abortions, don't have one, but you have absolutely no right to tell someone else what they can and can't do. Kind of a no-brainer to me.

Anyways, I should register soon. This will be my first elections, and I need to get an absentee ballot.


Oh, and by the way, Canada's having an election Oct 14. Thought you guys might be interested. Or not, cause it IS Canadian politics...

Canada is like the loft above a really great party :p I kid of course. I took a trip to the eastern Rockies a few years ago, really nice place. On a serious note though, while I find abortion to be absolutely horrid from an ethical standpoint, I think that it is a legal right. Not to mention that outright outlawing it w/out allowing for exceptions and redundancies in the system would cause a whole mess of problems.
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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...but you have absolutely no right to tell someone else what they can and can't do. Kind of a no-brainer to me.

Yes, but then why can't we apply that to other points of government? Thats all it really is, a group of utterly unqualified people (do you really think they know everything about ag, transportation, foreign policy, budgeting, chemicals, etc, that they vote on?) making decisions that change what choices you have, or limit what you can or cannot do.


Let me give an an example of the horribly f'ed up reasoning that go through some of these peoples brains.

Recently in Sacramento, a 16 year old girl died in a car accident. The report indicated that she was driving recklessly and heavily intoxicated late at night. After looking at her phone, it was determined that she had been text messaging just prior to the crash that would take her life. The mother indicated, at the end of the article that this was published in, that texting while driving is dangerous, and that is why her daughter died.

Really? I mean, really? It wasn't because your 16 year old was an inexperienced driver driving at night (that isn't legal in California within the first 6 months to first year you have your license), or because she was speeding, or because she was drunk? No, obviously it was because she was text messaging!


Heres another example, from a bill which passed the California State Assembly (where I worked this summer).

Not too long ago, at the Great America theme park in San Jose, a 4 year old boy drowned in the wave pool. His mother did not get him a life vest, which was available, and he wasn't a good swimmer (or couldn't swim, I forget the details on this one). The mother also left the boy alone in the pool, she went to get a bag of chips.

Now, because of her failures to protect her offspring, the state has laws on the books (or will, depending on what Arnold has signed or not) that regulate how wave pools must be run. They must sound a horn 15 seconds before any wave action. They must forcibly provide a life vest for each child under 42 inches accompanied by an adult into the park where they have a wave pool. And if a child who is under 42 inches tries to enter the park (not the pool), they will be denied entrance.



Now, I understand this is a huge, ongoing, and never going to end debate, but tell me, is that really the purpose of government?
 

Shadowfield

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um, yes?

Anyways, abortion is purely personal. My dad is morally against it, but he's also pro-choice. I'm morally for it, and again pro-choice.

As for the drowned child: It's unfortunate that some kids are born to parents who aren't able to act responsibly.

As for the driving, I totally agree. Hell, I live in Montreal where the drivers are so bad it's illegal to turn right on reds.


[edit] Immortal-D : I completely respect your views regarding abortion. The problem with most people is that they don't respect other peoples views or ideas.
 
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MrAlBobo

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Oh, and by the way, Canada's having an election Oct 14. Thought you guys might be interested. Or not, cause it IS Canadian politics...

As a canadian...id have to say that for the most part we are not interested in our own elections <_<