Changing team of which pushes the cart in payload

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Is it possible to change which team pushes the cart hammer tf2?
I have tried so many things now...

Thanks in advance :)
 

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The only thing I cant get to work is when it should move and the HUD still show a blue cart. When you try to push the cart it just shows up with a big X above the cart in the HUD. And when you do the same as blue it shows the X and some text saying defend this point.
 

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Its for plyload, and I got the thing where it is already made, then I tried to change stuff so it works for the red team instead of the blue team. But I cant get it to work fully.
Or maybe its just hard-coded for blue only?
 

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So you want only the RED team push the cart? You need to change team_control_point_round entity settings and change there BLU instead of RED on winning and make necessary changes for the payload to work. I haven't tested but that's where i would start.
 

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So, as I said I have done a lot already I only have a few things that does not work, which is game breaking.
1. The cart does not move when you walk up to it. (It shows a cross for both teams like its blocked or something. For the blue team which is defending it shows with some text saying defend this point. For the red(Pushing team) team it just shows the cross)
2. The cart shows up in blue at the HUD, I changed all the points to be blue tho.

Any suggestions?
 

Luigi1000

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Well I believe the hud for normal pl is default to blue so not much on that end. As for the issue of the team capping, change you team_control_point_round to restrict blue from winning, change the team for the trigger_capture_area for the bomb cart to red only. Remember to list all control points in your team_control_point_round.
 

Vel0city

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Why are you making RED attack and BLU defend in payload? It's generally a good idea to stay with the way the game has always been: BLU attacks and RED defends. This goes for all maps where there's an attack/defend scenario (so Attack/Defend and Payload). If there isn't a logical reason to have RED attack in a scenario where BLU normally does that stay away from it and let BLU do the attacking.

If you do have a reason why RED has to attack, you have to make sure that all entities that normally make BLU push and RED defend are basically inverted to a point where RED attacks and BLU defends, so that means switching teams on the trigger_capture_area attached to the bomb, set the team_train_watcher to RED and update the team_control_point_round so that it restricts BLU from winning, as said above. And of course, change the BLU bomb model to RED's. But again, if it's regular payload stay with BLU attacking and RED defending. It saves you from having potential headaches with entities later on because you switched all the payload-specific entities to RED and it doesn't confuse players playing on your map.
 
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Pickle Da Goldfish

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Has anyone ever figured this out? The only other post that exists about this was made in 2009 and also didn't solve the issue.

Setting the team in team_train_watcher and the capture area to "red" does not allow red to push the cart. No matter what I change, it seemingly always shows "defend this point" in the HUD and blocks red from pushing.

So I'm assuming there's something hard-coded into the actual gamemode itself that literally gives all red players a capture rate of 0.

If anyone has gotten red to successfully push the cart, please send the .vmf.