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That is problem of most newcomers here. They start thousand maps, and most of them never cross a2 line. I think there need some faq about this. (And about starting detailing too soon.)

I'm guilty of this. Of all the maps I've submitted here, only two of them have reached Beta (and I ended up abandoning them anyway).

Ms. Mudpie said:

I'm guilty of this. Of all the maps I've submitted here, only two of them have reached Beta (and I ended up abandoning them anyway).

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We're all guilty of that to some extent or another. Doesn't mean we shouldn't really, really try every now and then.

I'm also like this. Hopefully the 72 hr contest will help spur me on to continue on my map.

EArkham said:

We're all guilty of that to some extent or another. Doesn't mean we shouldn't really, really try every now and then.

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You do NOT want to see my dead/inactive project folder.

It's a graveyard.

Preparing for the 72hr with an ent setup + custom stuff.

Bolt your doors, lock your windows and fix your leaks cos a storm is coming!

EArkham said:

We're all guilty of that to some extent or another. Doesn't mean we shouldn't really, really try every now and then.

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The other problem is that your early maps are generaly of a lower quality. it takes a few tries to get it right. Having many concepts on that part is not such a bad thing as you can learn from mistakes. However, trying to fix problems is a skill you also need, so having 7 maps <a3 state isnt good. yet if of those 7 maps 4 would have reached a7 and still come out bad you can still use areas from those 4 maps. As there were definitely parts that made them good (as if it was realy bad we would have advised you to restart it). Deciding to drop a map however is just as important as deciding to continue with one (cough tc_ramparts and tc_invasion being my dropped maps).

Restarting a map fresh also has advantage of learning that some things dont work, yet the idea might still be good. Intercept had quite some iterations that didnt even reach public. I had a few areas reconstructed as initialy i just ran out of space to make everything fit. And for detailing i initualy had a space base, now its egypt. Skullcove was initialy ment maya style, it became halloween. And all of them already had steps to give it a diffirent style.

Maps can change alot. Sometimes they might not end up as the idea you have yet still remain good.

Just be positive and try to use areas that worked, even if that is in a diffirent map. Dont rely on visuals too much (doing so has a high chance for bad gameplay), if an area plays well making the visuals isnt realy a problem as there is often plenty of building space. And many times with good gameplay the layout automaticly becomes a very nice area in its shape.

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the past few posts are good encouragement for a beginner like myself : )

after my first a1 playtest i realize i should've kept all the shapes and textures even simpler.
it also made me think i should just start something new.. but i guess just because a playtest isn't a success doesn't mean i can't just keep parts of the map, or at least stick with the initial concept.

i know that sounds logical, but objectivity is hard to keep when you're doing something creative : )
like ZeSpice mentioned, maybe a FAQ wouldn't be such a bad idea. if only to discourage beginners to start mapping in an inefficient way.

DioJoestar said:

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Those are pretty cool, but I feel the red/blu is too saturated and not vibrant enough.

Looks good, but instead of the - sign i would use the team logo. I just adds that little bit of detail

After days of planning, sketching, and very nearly avoiding being busted by my parents, i've finally finished koth_rockfall's mid :

The last was a test with $color.

It doesn't convince me at all. It uses the same colors of the originals.


Shitty preview

I love this.

NoirSuede said:

After days of planning, sketching, and very nearly avoiding being busted by my parents

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Wait, you decided to make a map in a time frame that could get you in trouble? I wouldn't be able to get work done like that personally.

Misusing class time to make props

Why not just use the existing present models for whatever you're doing? That's what I did. You can get the (bad) map files and the presents here.

Vincent said:

Wait, you decided to make a map in a time frame that could get you in trouble? I wouldn't be able to get work done like that personally.

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No, i meant that i was making the map in a way that made my parents really curious as to what i was making.

Anyways, how's the map itself ?

NoirSuede said:

No, i meant that i was making the map in a way that made my parents really curious as to what i was making.

Anyways, how's the map itself ?

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It seems like you have some walls there that are 1 unit thick, which is not good - players will be able to shoot through them, and the engine doesn't like them very much. The area around the point seems too empty. The direct route would be so dangerous that most players will avoid it and stick only to the hallways. Blocking fire from the point the way you have could work well though.

Also, try to use different textures for the walls and floors. It's a little hard to see what's going on otherwise.