Idea For New Contest/Event

ades

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I had an idea recently about maybe some sort of contest/event where people would go back to there first map and try to make it work as a balanced completed map. so i just wanted to here your opinion on my idea
 

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-I should mention I was involved in the making of this idea.

And he forgot to mention a few things that were in the chat. I.e. Some people not making a first map yet, and some people having horrible first maps

1: I personally feel like people making a first map shouldn't be competing in contests anyway, as it's much easier to get their self confidence crushed in a contest.

2: That's the challenge. I'd be happy to participate, and look at my first map: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=23054&highlight=untextured
 

Fruity Snacks

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I actually don't like that thread because it's easy for something to get brought up once and immediately forgotten.

It's there for reasons like this. It doesn't get forgotten, because thats the thread people go to for contest ideas, not a side-thread made somewhere else.
 

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That looks like it has potential!

It was about four times too big. Everything was overscaled, look at the track size! And back then, I even though it was small. However, I do think I will eventually make a pl map under the same name and just reuse the thread.
 

Fantaboi

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This doesn't make sense, for most of our first maps to be changed enough to make them good, they'd no longer be like our first maps or recognisable enough
 

ades

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there could be rules around how similar/different it can look
 

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Haha, I pretty much did exactly this with koth_rocktop. Not my first map ever since I mapped for other games before TF2 but it was my first honest attempt at a TF2 map.

The idea isn't bad, maybe it could even be expanded to unfinished projects in general? Or maybe collect a couple of donated unfinished/abandoned maps, and people draw numbers to select which ones they want to complete.
 

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Haha, I pretty much did exactly this with koth_rocktop. Not my first map ever since I mapped for other games before TF2 but it was my first honest attempt at a TF2 map.

The idea isn't bad, maybe it could even be expanded to unfinished projects in general? Or maybe collect a couple of donated unfinished/abandoned maps, and people draw numbers to select which ones they want to complete.

thank you!
 

Idolon

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I think the best way we could make this work is if we gave everyone the same map(s) to start with. It'd be sorta like the artpass contest, but with a focus on revising the layout. The only issue with this that I see is that we'd probably end up with a lot of very similar maps.

We could do something where everyone starts out with the same cap design or payload path, and then let people build from there. I've heard that it's been done before, but it's also been many years since - why not give it another shot?
 

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For me it would be a pain to edit tc_invasion to even become decent in gameplay and fps. For me the 2nd map would get alot more potential (pl_donut - which i think would be an excelent medieval map if i restyle it).

But yes, the first map idea is a bad idea. Especialy since for most people the first map had such a huge amount of flaws that it would require a complete redesign from scratch. And its worse for those that went with odd systems as they generaly would need to scrap it to begin with.

Idealy i rather would see a contest in changing an old failed map (either yours or someone elses) to a new gamemode and make it work for that. But even then some people have major advantages by having a more solid base map for certain styles (in my case that would become medieval donut and i mostly would just have to edit its visuals).

Maybe for a 72h contest it might be suitable. But a full contest. better not.