PL Cragmoor

KitMan

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May 11, 2013
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Cragmoor A3

Being developed by KitMan and R3dn4x3l4

Alpha - First stage & second of a 3 stage PL map

Stage 3 currently being planned

- Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated -
 
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Muddy

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In the first screenshot, it looks like there is only one exit out of BLU spawn, which is a bad idea cos it can be very easily camped that way.

Also, a lot of the actual gameplay area looks to be in shadow, while the out-of-bounds areas are in the light. This might be a result of making the surrounding buildings quite high, but tilting your light_env downwards a little, or adding some light_spots to brighten up the ground may be a good idea.

Other than that though, good work so far!

100th post wooo
 
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Waffe

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Dec 2, 2012
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Have some feedback!

Good bits:

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- This is some ass-kicking brushwork (hopefully it's not a model otherwise I'd look like a dummy)

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- Cool

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- Also cool. I see what you're going for here. Really like this style.

Misc. flaws I found, minor stuff:

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- Tunnel way too low, especially when you're supposed to push the cart there.

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- Dafuq. Why would anyone place a palisade inside the town, blocking a street? You could say RED put it there but that feels unplausible and raises the question "why did they not use some easy-to-move barricade instead?".

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- These shadows. Wut

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- And also these shadows. Disable also the "collision" from the tracks because the console is spamming the Vphysics error. But that's just a small pet peeve of mine.

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- No comment. (In case you don't know how this happened, the cart went upwards after capping the fourth point)

Layout, major stuff:

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- The first part of the map feels too narrow. I found it to be about 1.2k HU, which is narrow even for 8v8. The later parts are OK, IMO.

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- This is the spawn for BLU after capping the second point. As you can see (and hopefully I drew it correctly) the "main" [A] way out is VERY much faster than the "flank" . Maybe move the BLU spawn entities somewhere in between and possibly even shorten the "flank" route.

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- By far the biggest flaw I found flying around in your map. This. RED have a MASSIVE positional and height advantage. BLU has to walk a long way around, EVEN PASSING BY RED SPAWN, in order to push the cart further. I have this feeling that the cart is going to get stuck after it's pushed inside the elevator. Solution: Add a second way up to the cart for BLU to use, or move the RED spawn somewhere else.
 
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KitMan

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May 11, 2013
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In the first screenshot, it looks like there is only one exit out of BLU spawn, which is a bad idea cos it can be very easily camped that way.

Also, a lot of the actual gameplay area looks to be in shadow, while the out-of-bounds areas are in the light. This might be a result of making the surrounding buildings quite high, but tilting your light_env downwards a little, or adding some light_spots to brighten up the ground may be a good idea.

Other than that though, good work so far!

100th post wooo

Thanks for the feedback, don't worry Blu spawn has 3 exits!
 

KitMan

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May 11, 2013
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Have some feedback!

Good bits:
- This is some ass-kicking brushwork (hopefully it's not a model otherwise I'd look like a dummy)
- Cool
- Also cool. I see what you're going for here. Really like this style.

Misc. flaws I found, minor stuff:
- Tunnel way too low, especially when you're supposed to push the cart there.
- Dafuq. Why would anyone place a palisade inside the town, blocking a street? You could say RED put it there but that feels unplausible and raises the question "why did they not use some easy-to-move barricade instead?".
- These shadows. Wut
- And also these shadows. Disable also the "collision" from the tracks because the console is spamming the Vphysics error. But that's just a small pet peeve of mine.
- No comment. (In case you don't know how this happened, the cart went upwards after capping the fourth point)

Layout, major stuff:
- The first part of the map feels too narrow. I found it to be about 1.2k HU, which is narrow even for 8v8. The later parts are OK, IMO.
- This is the spawn for BLU after capping the second point. As you can see (and hopefully I drew it correctly) the "main" [A] way out is VERY much faster than the "flank" . Maybe move the BLU spawn entities somewhere in between and possibly even shorten the "flank" route.
- By far the biggest flaw I found flying around in your map. This. RED have a MASSIVE positional and height advantage. BLU has to walk a long way around, EVEN PASSING BY RED SPAWN, in order to push the cart further. I have this feeling that the cart is going to get stuck after it's pushed inside the elevator. Solution: Add a second way up to the cart for BLU to use, or move the RED spawn somewhere else.


Wow! Man this is awesome, Some of the things you mentioned I'd already noticed and will probably fix, but wanted to test first. As for the other things you've been very helpful cheers!
 

PC's_Frank

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All I know is, this map looks incredible, infinitely better than anything I could have made.
 

KitMan

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May 11, 2013
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Thank you very much!